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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:57 PM Mar 2016

Idaho Dems to mull change from caucus system

BOISE -- Despite a robust turnout at caucuses in the Treasure Valley and around the state, the Idaho Democratic Party has not ruled out moving away from the caucus system for future elections.

Party spokesman Dean Ferguson said he was thrilled with the response - about 24,000 people state-wide. More than 9,100 of those voters came from Ada County, making the Ada County caucus one of the largest in the U.S. The Gem State's system breaks up caucuses by county, rather than dividing counties into smaller precincts.

"It's certainly the largest in Idaho," Ferguson said. "In 2008, [the turnout] was record-breaking, there was a lot of excitement that year. We broke that record this year."

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Despite Tuesday night's success, the party is not locking itself into the caucus system for the foreseeable future. Ferguson said party leaders will review the caucus system and decide whether to stay with caucuses or make the move to a primary system.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/politics/dems-to-mull-change-from-caucus-system/98817189

Honestly, despite the excitement of the SuperCaucuses (caucusi?), I'd like to see a move to a primary, but only if we can prevent the banana republic execution (literally!) of the voting process seen elsewhere. Early voting & vote-by-mail would be a good start.

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Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
2. absolutely,
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

My wife was the sub caucus chair for the county we were in and It was a Charlie foxtrot. The State democratic committee had changed the rules again (they do every time). Not because of any malfeasance but because they all ways think they can do it better. The instructions were unclear and in some cases silly, but we muddled thru. Idaho actually has a good election department, early voting, absentee voting are easy and they are very accommodating. Going to a primary would be great and trust me on this, a lot of people expressed the same thought on Tuesday night.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
3. The voting results of a caucus can't be stolen like a primary can.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

People have to show up to cast their vote for the Presidential candidate of their choice all at the same event, county by county.
It's like the old form of Greek Democracy, everyone's raised hand is counted.

There may come a day when people decide not to show up for the caucus, but that is certainly not the trend.
As noted in the article, 2008 was a record-setting year for a caucus.
More people voted for then-Senator Obama than for then-Senator Hillary in our caucus in 2008.

However, even more people voted for Senator Sanders than for Hillary this year.

I don't think they should fix what ain't broke.





Lorien

(31,935 posts)
4. Exactly. If Arizona had the same system the results would have been very similar
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

to Idaho's last night. Now the DNC is laying the ground work for election theft in the remaining "delegate rich" states, and we have to figure out how we'll stop them.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
6. I have been reading up on what happened in Arizona last night, and I agree with you.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:03 PM
Mar 2016

It's sad to see so many Democrats disenfranchised, and yet Hillary hasn't even commented on it.
I think that tells us everything we need to know about her.

Our state caucus is only designed to pick the Presidential candidate's delegates.
We hold an open primary election later on in the spring, in May.
The Democratic party's primary is an open primary for all offices: national, state, county, and city.
We make it easy to vote in our primary.
We even have same day registration now.

But, we are very careful to protect how our convention's delegates are chosen to represent us at the state's Democratic Convention, so we use the ol' tried and true method of holding a caucus.
And then at the state's convention, those representatives that meet up there, do it all over again to decide who our state will send to the Democratic National Convention later in the summer.

The only reason Hillary doesn't like caucuses is because she can't win any.
Neither could Bubba when he was running for President.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. Wow...very interesting.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:42 AM
Mar 2016

And I did notice...Bernie is speaking out about that mess in Arizona but Hillster, crickets.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
5. It is interesting that there is talk in Minnesota of going to a primary
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

from the DFL powers that be -- all of whom, except Keith Ellison, are supporting Clinton.

Out caucuses were swamped and chaotic in 2008 but there was no clear preference from the PTB between Clinton and Obama. This year the insurgent candidate won and there is all sorts of hand wringing over how things worked.

Caucuses make it much easier for a grass roots candidate to win. I don't believe Wellstone would have been our candidate if we weren't a caucus state.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
7. I was in Minneapolis in 1990 when Wellstone campaigned for the Senate.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:27 AM
Mar 2016

Running around the state in an old school bus!
I didn't think he had much of a chance, to be honest.
But, considering Wellstone was running for Republican Rudy Boschwitz' old Senate seat, it was great to see him overcome the odds and win.
He was a great Senator.

The Governor's race that year was interesting, too.
Especially after the Republican candidate dropped out of the race just 10 days before the election.
Yet, somehow Arne Carlson still won that race, even though he had been beaten in the Republican primary by the other Republican many months before.






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