Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumJust an observation Bernie and the Oligarchs
Bernie has used the term Oligarchs repeatedly in many of his speeches and assessments of a needed correction of the system and called them out by name.. Oligarchs
However Clinton never has used that term as far a my research has found but has called out Republicans but as all of us know, Republicans are just the lackeys and non thinking zombie like robots doing the bidding for their masters. .Do I think Republicans are a problem? Why yes but they are not the power behind the curtain of deception and to not call out the true masters of this Sith like deception is like blaming the trade federation for the problems of the republic to use the star wars analogy.
So if you notice where and who she attacks to get her new found populist talking points the corrupt system
it never really attacked nor gets to the core of the matter or the deeper truth.
This is why Bernie is my man and I will never trust the Clintons
Late night rant over.
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)That would be a good name for a band.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)B-b-b-b-bernie and the Oligarchs
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,837 posts)is to become oligarchs. Most people would be satisfied with all that they have, but not them. The Clintons and the Bushes have had a long run. I don't think the Bushes or the Clintons are actually part of the ruling oligarchy, however. They have power because they do the bidding of the oligarchs. They're very high-level cops, in a sense.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)This is an impressive crowd: the Have's and Have-more's. Some people call you the elites. I call you my base.
I put both families in this category.
LuvNewcastle
(16,837 posts)to see a glimpse of the big picture. They've been allowed to see small parts, but seeing a small piece here and there isn't very useful if they can't connect it with another part. That's power, and that is what people like the Bushes and Clintons crave -- a look at the big picture. Unless they know what that looks like, they're nobodies just like the rest of us.
Edited for clarity.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Although it probably falls under corporations.
TBF
(32,016 posts)grew up in a small town with a single mom who went back to school for her nursing degree or some such ... I'm sure Hillary, from the suburbs of Chicago, admired him a great deal when they met at Yale. But she was never that person. She wasn't from a super wealthy family but she doesn't know poverty either. I think she's incredibly smart and I wish she were on the Supreme Court (can you imagine replacing Roberts with her - I think that would be a definite improvement). But we are so far gone in this country at this point in time. To turn it around is going to take someone who really understands what it is like to be a normal person living paycheck to paycheck. That person is not Hillary (and it certainly isn't Jeb!).
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)He grew up in the mafia infested, criminal corupted city of Hot Springs Arkansas...... He left Hope Ark. when he was six
Bill Clinton got out of Hot Springs just before all the illegal activity was finally shut down
Clinton goes to Georgetown University where he finds a mentor in Professor Carroll Quigley
. Quigley writes: "That the two political parties should represent opposed ideals and policies. . . is a foolish idea. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical
. . .''The policies that are vital and necessary for America are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in detail, procedure, priority, or method.'' ........ that my friend
Has been Bill's mantra for since his college days.
merrily
(45,251 posts)for a lot of his early political contacts. He might Fullbright shortly before that famous photo of young Bill shaking JFK's hand.
Bubba called Quigley and JFK the two biggest influences on his life.
The love of financial markets for predictability is the reason Quigley thought political parties should be similar--as little change for the financial markets as possible from one administration to the other, no matter who wins elections.
Life's uncertainties should be for poor humans, not Wall Street.
TBF
(32,016 posts)I didn't know he left Hope at age 6 - certainly didn't play that up in his campaign speeches! I've actually driven through Hope and it is a tiny place but has all the signs about "Bill Clinton born here" etc.
What you're saying actually explains a lot. I do know also that he decided early on that he wanted to go into politics. I worked for someone who was in Hillary & Bill's law school classes at Yale (same year). He said Hillary was very bright, prepared, involved in the school etc. Bill was absent - out working on campaigns. He would show up to take exams and then leave again.
I guess on some level too I just think we are past the 90s and everything Bush/Clinton. It was an interesting decade with all the dot.com action, the changes from Reagan coming in and re-working how people were taxed, etc. It really set us on a different course and ultimately only a few people came out of that time as "winners". And I think we need someone who wasn't up to their arms in it come in and start cleaning up the mess (as opposed to appointing bankers who caused the mess). Bernie, with his years in Congress (and excellent track record of ignoring the aristocracy), seems like a really good person to lead us in the right direction.
merrily
(45,251 posts)than we've been led to believe. As a child, she lived in not only a suburb, but a wealthy one. Not Rockefeller wealthy but affluent. Also, her father bought a new car every year, which in the 1940s was no small thing in those days. Her wiki was altered to say he "managed" a small textile business instead of he owned his own business. Luckily for me, they forgot to purge his wiki, too (though it may be purged by now). He owned a business that supplied draperies and such to hotel chains and owned a second business as well.
She has been running on her mother's alleged poverty as a young child, not her own poverty or her Dad's. My Dad and Mom both grew up poorer than I did, but I never experienced their poverty, any more than I experience Oliver Twist's. In fact, I probably know more about Oliver Twist's because Dickens was a more gifted storyteller than either of my parents and they mentioned their own childhood poverty to us only rarely.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779385 (Bill).
TBF
(32,016 posts)and explains how he had the connections to get to the point where he was a governor and then president. Despite the Horatio Alger myths that children are raised on in this country, there really is an oligarchy here and kids from the slums normally do not end up as president of the US.
merrily
(45,251 posts)dae
(3,396 posts)Thank you for all!
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Besides who is actually buying her BS?