Bernie Sanders

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts) Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:22 PM Oct 2015

Analysis: Biden Decision a Blow to Sanders ?

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"With Mr. Biden out, Mrs. Clinton is positioned to consolidate a key combination of elite support and moderate voters," Cohn wrote. "The evidence of Mrs. Clinton’s gains could start to trickle in almost immediately, since she was the second choice of nearly all of Mr. Biden’s voters in public opinion polls over the last month."

Biden's decision isn't all bad news for Sanders. Had the VP joined the race, he would have stolen some of the limelight enjoyed by the Vermont senator in recent months. Without him, Sanders remains the chief alternative to Clinton, which means he'll continue to draw headlines and can continue to spread his message to those unfamiliar with it.

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Analysis: Biden Decision a Blow to Sanders ? (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Oct 2015 OP

Fuck the elites and the "moderates" aint so nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #1

I think it's a net negative for Bernie. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #2

Correct... malokvale77 Oct 2015 #3

Martin O'Malley is not a centrist fbc Oct 2015 #5

I didn't say he was. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #7

Gotcha fbc Oct 2015 #8

No problem. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #9

I agree fbc Oct 2015 #4

It won't help in the short term. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #6

Oh come on - anyone who would support Biden is already in Hillary's camp - TBF Oct 2015 #10

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

1. Fuck the elites and the "moderates" aint so nt

Reply to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:23 PM

Oct 2015

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)

2. I think it's a net negative for Bernie.

Reply to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:45 PM

Oct 2015

Biden would have taken his support out of Hillary's numbers, not ours (for the most part.) I would have liked to have seen it.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)

3. Correct...

Reply to Jester Messiah (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:31 PM

Oct 2015

The Hillary campaign was far more worried about a Joe Biden run then Bernie was.

The centrist "anybody but Hillary" people will likely move to Martin O'Malley.

fbc

(1,668 posts)

5. Martin O'Malley is not a centrist

Reply to malokvale77 (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:55 PM

Oct 2015

His platform looks about as progressive as Bernie's

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)

7. I didn't say he was.

Reply to fbc (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 12:23 AM

Oct 2015

I was thinking about the fear of the "socialist" label.

fbc

(1,668 posts)

8. Gotcha

Reply to malokvale77 (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:04 AM

Oct 2015

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)

9. No problem.

Reply to fbc (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 01:32 AM

Oct 2015

I like MO'M. I would like to see him as a possible Bernie VP or a member of his Cabinet.

I think he has learned from past mistakes. Something I don't believe Hillary will ever admit to or learn from.

fbc

(1,668 posts)

4. I agree

Reply to Jester Messiah (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 10:54 PM

Oct 2015

Though I think some of those potential Biden voters may be "Anybody but Hillary" voters that might shift to Bernie so it's not all bad.

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

6. It won't help in the short term.

Reply to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 11:37 PM

Oct 2015

2/3 to 3/4 of his support will go to Clinton. Long term, he's got to beat Clinton whether Biden is in the race or not, so it makes little difference. He's just got to keep chipping away. Still several months until the first primaries, which he's already leading in polls.

TBF

(32,050 posts)

10. Oh come on - anyone who would support Biden is already in Hillary's camp -

Reply to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:15 AM

Oct 2015

if a bit reluctantly. They are cut from the same third-way cloth. This doesn't affect Sanders.

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