Democratic Primaries

redqueen

(115,103 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:31 AM Jan 2020

Andrew Yang is 'pandering' to all of us.

Not everyone has college debt. Not everyone has healthcare issues. Almost everyone is struggling.

All the institution's we seem to put so much faith in as Dems are leaving so many people behind. These people are mostly hopeless and most have given up on politicians ever making their lives better.

I talk to these people every day, face to face. Most don't think very much about politics because they are struggling. My Lyft driver last night has a degree in digital marketing and cannot get a job in her field. She has no medical expenses. My neighbor has no college debt but is being crushed my medical expenses. Both need help, ASAP.

Congress will tie up the legislation for a wealth tax and M4A for years. We know this. But small businesses, and large businesses too, will quickly warm up to the economic stimulus possible with the Freedom Dividend. We can pass this.

I posted this video late last night and it didn't get any reaction. I hope people will watch the entire thing, (and maybe read the comments top) and reconsider what you think of Yang's chances, and what you think about our chances of starting a movement to change this country in a fundamental way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Andrew Yang is 'pandering' to all of us. (Original Post) redqueen Jan 2020 OP

K&R Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #1

Indeed redqueen Jan 2020 #2

Watching a YouTube video isn't going to change the dynamics for Yang brooklynite Jan 2020 #3

We will see Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #4

I don't think you appreciate the threshold issue... brooklynite Jan 2020 #6

I appreciate the threshold issue Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #8

Also his flagship solution helps EVERYONE. redqueen Jan 2020 #11

Agreed Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #13

My thoughts exactly. . redqueen Jan 2020 #15

So we're just writing off all those people who are so disenfranchised redqueen Jan 2020 #5

They AREN'T disenfranchised, they're repesented by other respondents... brooklynite Jan 2020 #7

+1000 Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #9

After the polling fiasco last time redqueen Jan 2020 #10

Yup Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #12

K&R. I like Yang a lot, though I do have a couple criticisms/questions. DanTex Jan 2020 #14

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

1. K&R

Reply to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:33 AM

Jan 2020

Thanks for posting. To me it is less pandering, than stating what needed to be addressed long ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

2. Indeed

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:34 AM

Jan 2020

I just saw a thread about Bernie and found it inspiring, so I wanted to do a similar one for Yang

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)

3. Watching a YouTube video isn't going to change the dynamics for Yang

Reply to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:35 AM

Jan 2020

(nb - I've met him personally, twice). Yang is broadly at 4%. That's not viability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

4. We will see

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:02 AM

Jan 2020

My understanding is that he is doing much better than the described 4%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)

6. I don't think you appreciate the threshold issue...

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:18 AM

Jan 2020

He could be doing 300% better than polling suggests he is...and he still wouldn't be viable for Delegates in Iowa. I actually seen him on the stump in Iowa. He has his base supporters but he doesn't have the resources to turn out a significant share of voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

8. I appreciate the threshold issue

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:25 AM

Jan 2020

I just believe we should wait and see. I will continue to support him and because he came into the campaign with real solutions rather than an "I want to run for president and I guess I should go figure out what people want" approach.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

11. Also his flagship solution helps EVERYONE.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:28 AM

Jan 2020

Can't really overstress the importance of that!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

13. Agreed

Reply to redqueen (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:54 AM

Jan 2020

Along with being well thought out. We really need to move to human centered capitalism as he suggests. I had long thought that the way we glorify the almighty dollar in our society was wrong but he made the big picture of the total costs that we all pay by doing so crystal clear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

15. My thoughts exactly. .

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:05 AM

Jan 2020

His platform is the one I've been waiting for

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

5. So we're just writing off all those people who are so disenfranchised

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:10 AM

Jan 2020

that their opinions aren't sought out by polling organizations?

We'll see how his 'viability' changes as actual votes start being cast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,384 posts)

7. They AREN'T disenfranchised, they're repesented by other respondents...

Reply to redqueen (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:21 AM

Jan 2020

Scientific polling has spent year figuring out how to develop a broad understanding of people's opinions by sampling a share. It's not 100% accurate, but rarely does it get the results wrong by 400% (the minimum difference Yang would need to compete in Iowa).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden