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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:48 AM Jan 2020

Why Bernie Sanders Loves the F-35 Stealth Fighter

National Interest

In an unusual turn, this has pitted anti-F-35 activists in opposition to both of Vermont’s left-leaning senators, independent Bernie Sanders and Democrat Patrick Leahy, who have supported the F-35’s deployment in Burlington. For example, this September 6, activists planned a “Weekend at Bernie's” rally at Leahy and Sander’s Burlington offices opposing the F-35’s imminent arrival.

Supporters of the anti-F-35 campaign “Save our Skies” have included retired Air Force colonel Rosanne Greco who was formerly involved nuclear arms negotiations; Pierre Sprey, an influential weapons analyst in the 1970s and a longtime F-35 critic; and Ben Cohen of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream company who has provided financing.

South Burlingtonians living near the airport were already reportedly unhappy with the noise produced by the now-retired F-16s. In response, the airport actively purchased and razed over 200 adjacent homes to reduce the affected population. Opponents to F-35 basing particularly cite studies showing that children growing up near noisy airports tend to suffer adverse health and educational attainment outcomes.

In 2013, the National Guard also released an Environmental Impact Statement that asserted that the additional noise impact would be minimal. However, locals have questioned the assessment model.

It was eventually revealed that Burlington was the least well-rated of four sites evaluated by the Environmental Impact Statement, and its selection may have been pushed specifically by Senator Leahy. Furthermore, leaked emails revealed the National Guard had developed a new noise model (Karnes 3) over the objections of the Air Force with the intention of favorably tweaking the noise assessment.



Bloomberg

F-35’s List of Flaws Includes a Gun That Can’t Shoot Straight

Add a gun that can’t shoot straight to the problems that dog Lockheed Martin Corp.’s $428 billion F-35 program, including more than 800 software flaws.

The 25mm gun on Air Force models of the Joint Strike Fighter has “unacceptable” accuracy in hitting ground targets and is mounted in housing that’s cracking, the Pentagon’s test office said in its latest assessment of the costliest U.S. weapons system.

The annual assessment by Robert Behler, the Defense Department’s director of operational test and evaluation, doesn’t disclose any major new failings in the plane’s flying capabilities. But it flags a long list of issues that his office said should be resolved -- including 13 described as Category 1 “must-fix” items that affect safety or combat capability -- before the F-35’s upcoming $22 billion Block 4 phase.


The number of software deficiencies totaled 873 as of November, according to the report obtained by Bloomberg News in advance of its release as soon as Friday. That’s down from 917 in September 2018, when the jet entered the intense combat testing required before full production, including 15 Category 1 items. What was to be a year of testing has now been extended another year until at least October.




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Why Bernie Sanders Loves the F-35 Stealth Fighter (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
At least they're in a position to attack Montreal, if need be! George II Jan 2020 #1
Blame Canada! LOL. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #3
Eh? George II Jan 2020 #4
Purists for Pork! Scurrilous Jan 2020 #2
Clean up toxic waste? NIMBY! George II Jan 2020 #5
Nuclear waste? Scurrilous Jan 2020 #6
Senator Leahy was the prime mover for getting the F-35s in Vermont. denem Jan 2020 #7
The planning for the manufacture of the F-35 was ingenious. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #8
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2020 #9
 

George II

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1. At least they're in a position to attack Montreal, if need be!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jan 2020
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Scurrilous

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2. Purists for Pork!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jan 2020

Cut the military budget? NIMBY. Up the revolution. All the way up.

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George II

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5. Clean up toxic waste? NIMBY!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jan 2020
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Scurrilous

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6. Nuclear waste?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jan 2020

Dump the Mess with Texas.

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denem

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7. Senator Leahy was the prime mover for getting the F-35s in Vermont.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jan 2020

Sanders attitude was, 'if the damn planes are going to be built anyway' 'I’d rather it come to Vermont'.

In the real world, if the plane is built … and if the choice is if that goes to Vermont … South Carolina or Florida, what is your choice as a United States Senator? Do you want it to go to South Carolina? ... My view is that given the reality of the damn plane, I’d rather it come to Vermont than to South Carolina. And that’s what the Vermont National Guard wants, and that means hundreds of jobs in my city. That’s it.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-bernie-sanders-loves-f-35-stealth-fighter-78711

I have plenty of criticisms of Sanders, but this isn't one of them. The F-35 is a zombie. Despite efforts made by all sides, none have been able to kill it. By the time Sanders was lobbying for facilities to be based in Vermont, it was a done deal.

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keithbvadu2

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8. The planning for the manufacture of the F-35 was ingenious.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jan 2020

The planning for the manufacture of the F-35 was ingenious.

They spread the jobs around many, many Congressional districts.

Now their placement is just as purposeful.

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