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NEW California KQED/@ChangePolls: Sanders 30% (Original Post) Donkees Jan 2020 OP
This isn't surprising. evertonfc Jan 2020 #1
Change Research pollster (C rated by 538) honest.abe Jan 2020 #2
Sanders leads Biden in rcp by 4.8 and 538 by 4.3 Bumperstickers Jan 2020 #3
Just to clarify.. the final Survey USA 2016 poll of CA was 2 weeks pre-election. honest.abe Jan 2020 #6
Ppic was taken at same time may 22 2016 Bumperstickers Jan 2020 #8
So with that logic add 5 points to Biden and he leads by 2. honest.abe Jan 2020 #9
Well, we just have over a month to wait to see the definitive poll. MineralMan Jan 2020 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #5
Sanders lost the Latino vote in California last time. Aaron Pereira Jan 2020 #7
I'm looking forward to voting for him here! David__77 Jan 2020 #10
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
1. This isn't surprising.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jan 2020

Cali politics are pretty left. I'm more interested in how he is doing in PA or Fl

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
2. Change Research pollster (C rated by 538)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jan 2020

A recent poll (Jan 14-16) by A rated SurveyUSA had Biden leading by 10%. SurveyUSA is best pollster in the country.. imo.

Change Research tends to produce odd numbers. I dont trust them.

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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
3. Sanders leads Biden in rcp by 4.8 and 538 by 4.3
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jan 2020

Survey usa looks to be a outlier because all other California polls have Sanders in the lead. Also, survey usa was off by 11 points in their final prediction in the 2016 California democratic primary, so not a great track record in California.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
6. Just to clarify.. the final Survey USA 2016 poll of CA was 2 weeks pre-election.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jan 2020

Things changed considerably in that last 2 weeks. Almost everyone had Clinton leading by 10+ points at the time SurveyUSA did their last poll on May 23 then something happened about 10 days prior which closed the gap in the polling but Survey USA had no additional poll.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html#polls

Polling is a snapshot in time. I think they were accurate at the time they did the poll but things change in politics.. sometimes very rapidly.

Survey USA is known to be one of the best if not the best polling outfit in the country.

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Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
8. Ppic was taken at same time may 22 2016
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jan 2020

And was within 5 points of the final outcome, so i would say there is evidence that polling company is currently more accurate then survey USA in California and they have Sanders by 3 currently which falls more in line with other current polls.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
9. So with that logic add 5 points to Biden and he leads by 2.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jan 2020

Also, their polling was 2 weeks prior to the actual election so its a snapshot at the time. No pollster can predict the final outcome that far out. It's like predicting the weather weeks ahead. Almost impossible.

I think there is going to be another Survey USA survey coming soon. That one should tell the story better that anything else we have now.

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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. Well, we just have over a month to wait to see the definitive poll.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jan 2020

I can be patient.

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Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
5. Kicked and recommended.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

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Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
7. Sanders lost the Latino vote in California last time.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020

Now he's got a handsome lead which helps him two other important early states aside from California. Nevada and Texas.

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David__77

(23,372 posts)
10. I'm looking forward to voting for him here!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jan 2020

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