Democratic Primaries

aikoaiko

(34,153 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:56 AM Jan 2020

Joe's correct: Vote for someone other than him if you disagree with him

I keed, kind of.

I wondered if this was a Fox news affiliate set up, but I don't think it is. I wish the whole video were available for better judgment about what provoked Joe.

The handsy nature of Joe's response is weird.

https://www.kcci.com/article/biden-tells-des-moines-activist-vote-for-someone-else/30705659

Biden tells Des Moines activist 'vote for someone else' in tense exchange

DES MOINES, Iowa —
A video of Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden telling a Des Moines political activist to vote for someone else has received millions of views on social media.

Former Iowa legislator and Democrat Ed Fallon said his testy exchange with Biden occurred Sunday during a campaign stop at Urban Dreams in Des Moines.

He said he waited in line for a picture and wanted to confront Biden on his climate change proposals. Another member of Fallon's Bold Iowa group recorded their interaction.

"I'm going to support you if you win the nomination because we gotta get rid of (President Donald) Trump," Fallon said to Biden in the video.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Joe's correct: Vote for someone other than him if you disagree with him (Original Post) aikoaiko Jan 2020 OP

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Same. nt redqueen Jan 2020 #2

Yup. I mean, remember the outrage when he tried to shake Warren's hand? DanTex Jan 2020 #6

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God, yes, the body language expert, I saw a clip of that. DanTex Jan 2020 #8

No objection to saying "vote for someone else" but don't be dismissive... brooklynite Jan 2020 #3

"I'm actually supporting Tom Steyer" aikoaiko Jan 2020 #10

There's a lot of would be Joe The Plumber's out there. denem Jan 2020 #4

Meh ismnotwasm Jan 2020 #5

"A lot of this crap from any candidate is available" melman Jan 2020 #12

re: "The handsy nature of Joe's response is weird" - Yes, that's the more disturbing part. thesquanderer Jan 2020 #9

Well he got his 15 seconds of fame, I'm sure he's basking out on it. OnDoutside Jan 2020 #11

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redqueen

(115,096 posts)

2. Same. nt

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:06 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DanTex

(20,709 posts)

6. Yup. I mean, remember the outrage when he tried to shake Warren's hand?

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:15 PM

Jan 2020

Watching the Tuesday night kabuki in slo-mo, you can see that Sanders (I-Vt.), who’s notoriously irritable and suffers from cardiac issues, was riled by whatever Warren said, and by her refusal to be touched. He shook a finger at her. Then again. He seemed intent on freeing her right hand to grab it.

We all know this stock male move: Come on, baby, give me a hug; we’re still friends.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-01-15/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-women-presidents-iowa-democratic-debate

Not the Onion!

Bernie tries to shake a hand, and it plays out as a "stock male move" and he was "intent on freeing her right hand to grab it." I cannot imagine what they'd say if Bernie did any of those things Biden did. The internet would break.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)

8. God, yes, the body language expert, I saw a clip of that.

Reply to Name removed (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:35 PM

Jan 2020

Here it is, starting about 1:30. So much crazy stuff in there. Calling Bernie "shov-y and weird-y", he "turtles up"...

&t=5s

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,256 posts)

3. No objection to saying "vote for someone else" but don't be dismissive...

Reply to aikoaiko (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:07 PM

Jan 2020

...add to which, impugning motivation ("you're a Sanders voter&quot was uncalled for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aikoaiko

(34,153 posts)

10. "I'm actually supporting Tom Steyer"

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:52 PM

Jan 2020

That was funny that Biden assumed he was a Bernie supporter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

denem

(11,045 posts)

4. There's a lot of would be Joe The Plumber's out there.

Reply to aikoaiko (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:08 PM

Jan 2020

PACs like the Sunshine Foundation, are not attending to have a discussion of climate change in good faith.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ismnotwasm

(41,952 posts)

5. Meh

Reply to aikoaiko (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:15 PM

Jan 2020

A lot of this crap from any candidate is available. I ignore almost all of it

What is the candidate trying to accomplish with their platform?

Does the candidate have workable plans ready to implement?

Can the candidate beat Donald Trump?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

melman

(7,681 posts)

12. "A lot of this crap from any candidate is available"

Reply to ismnotwasm (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:23 PM

Jan 2020

No there isn't. Only one candidate routinely does this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

thesquanderer

(11,967 posts)

9. re: "The handsy nature of Joe's response is weird" - Yes, that's the more disturbing part.

Reply to aikoaiko (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:55 PM

Jan 2020

I thought he handled the exchange poorly, as I said in this post but I hadn't noticed all the physical stuff. That was more than a poor response, it was plain inappropriate. He's been criticized for being too physically familiar, but this goes beyond that to being physically aggressive. It reminded me of the school bully going after your lunch money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

OnDoutside

(19,943 posts)

11. Well he got his 15 seconds of fame, I'm sure he's basking out on it.

Reply to aikoaiko (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:20 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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