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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:58 AM Jan 2020

Take Two: Can Sanders Broaden His Base?

UVA Center for Politics

— Unlike in 2016, Bernie Sanders has a real chance to win the Democratic presidential nomination.

— However, he likely will have to broaden his base of support to do so.

— Namely, better showings in big urban and suburban areas are important, particularly as the field narrows.


Bernie Sanders begins his second bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in possession of something he never attained in 2016: A competitive chance of winning.

Sanders’ first try four years ago was respectable. Facing a top-heavy favorite in Hillary Rodham Clinton, he won 22 states — 12 caucuses and 10 primaries, among them the battleground states of Michigan and Wisconsin. He drew 43% of the nationwide Democratic primary vote, which represented more than 13 million voters. As a result, he posted the highest primary vote total in the nation’s history for any candidate not named Obama, Clinton, or Trump.

Yet in 2016, Sanders never had a realistic chance of winning the party’s nomination. Two basic stumbling blocks stood in his way: superdelegates and the South. The former, which comprised 15% of the convention delegates, went virtually en masse for Clinton, as she was a part of the Democratic establishment in a way that Sanders never was or could be. And with Clinton’s firm grip on the minority vote, the Vermont senator was never able to penetrate the South. He lost 12 of 13 primaries across the region (all save Oklahoma), polling barely one third of its aggregate primary vote in the process.

Sanders’ problem garnering the votes of African Americans and Hispanics extended to other regions of the country as well, helping Clinton to dominate the vote in many of the nation’s leading urban centers and their suburbs. The result: In the 10 states with 15 or more electoral votes, Sanders could carry the primary in only one, and that, Michigan, was by less than 20,000 votes out of 1.2 million cast.


Lots of hard data in the linked article.
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Take Two: Can Sanders Broaden His Base? (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2020 OP
He peaked a few years ago. George II Jan 2020 #1
Agree Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #2
Yes PatSeg Jan 2020 #4
There are far fewer caucuses this time around. denem Jan 2020 #3
Sanders ceiling seems to actually be lower this time. judeling Jan 2020 #5
Having a chance at the nomination simply isn't enough peggysue2 Jan 2020 #6
The 2020 election will be won or lost in the suburbs. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2020 #7
sanders will not be the nominee without African American support Gothmog Jan 2020 #8
Noting the ridiculous fallacy that superdelegates in any way impacted Sanders' run... OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #9
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. He peaked a few years ago.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jan 2020
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PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
4. Yes
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jan 2020

I don't see him broadening his base.

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denem

(11,045 posts)
3. There are far fewer caucuses this time around.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jan 2020

Does anyone know which are still caucus states? Which primaries are open?

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
5. Sanders ceiling seems to actually be lower this time.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jan 2020

It appears better then it is because it is not one on one. However while last time he could gather support because most people in the primaries didn't feel Trump as a threat. That is not true this time. That will cap his support probably around 35% or a bit less.

That will not be enough as support collapses around the perceived safer choice.

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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
6. Having a chance at the nomination simply isn't enough
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders has to beat Donald Trump in November and without a broad base, reach and appeal a Sanders' candidacy is doomed. And so are we as a country.

Socialism does not play well in the US and the Republicans will wrap that tag around Bernie Sanders and then beat it into the ground. He has no chance in the GE. Without broad support among the African American community and other people of color, he will fail miserably. And he will take the country down with him.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. The 2020 election will be won or lost in the suburbs.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jan 2020

Everything else is commentary.

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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
8. sanders will not be the nominee without African American support
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jan 2020

Somehow, I doubt that this will happen given stunts like the sanders delegates planned stunt at the National Convention of booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and Stacy Abrams

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OilemFirchen

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9. Noting the ridiculous fallacy that superdelegates in any way impacted Sanders' run...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jan 2020

I believe I'll pass on the click.

Thanks anyway!

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