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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:18 PM Jan 2020

Matt Orfalea. (adults only) video trashing MLK hired by Bernie Sanders. POLL

He loves to use the word 'retarded'. so hillarious...am I right? He is a buddy of Sean Hannity. should a person like this be working for a Democratic candidate?

Sen.Sander what are you and Jane (who praised this guy) thinking?!!!!!




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Matt Orfalea. (adults only) video trashing MLK hired by Bernie Sanders. POLL (Original Post) Demsrule86 Jan 2020 OP
Oh. My. God. NCProgressive Jan 2020 #1
The videos are shocking...the hit on MLK and verbal abuse of the mentally challange make me want Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #2
You left out "who cares about a random 10 year old video"? DanTex Jan 2020 #3
I care...my family cares...my friends care...people of color care... revmclaren Jan 2020 #5
Except when people constantly tout endorsements from homophobic warmongering pro torture... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #6
How about people who supported the Russian hacking, grucifer2.0 etc revmclaren Jan 2020 #8
Knock yourself out. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #18
Thanks... revmclaren Jan 2020 #25
Let's pretend the false equivalencies are rational rather than shrill-sounding. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #10
That's all they've got. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #13
+1000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #17
What endorsements and who 'touts' it? Link... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #20
You nailed it. These are Core Democratic values...and any of us understand that. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #15
I too pretend different opinions equals "anti-Bernie" LanternWaste Jan 2020 #7
Really, these are worst .... I could find more recent things...and yeah I think voters care... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #11
It is a part of a very bad pattern. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Jan 2020 #4
You are exactly correct. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #12
There should also be a poll about whether "handicapped" is an appropriate word to use for DanTex Jan 2020 #9
Oh please...that is all you have? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #14
I don't "have" anything. I just think it would be a good poll to do, to see what people would think. DanTex Jan 2020 #16
Why don''t you address the issues. Your whataboutsism won't save the Sanders nomination. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #21
Yes, I think it's important to avoid potentially offensive language like "handicapped". DanTex Jan 2020 #23
I find it a bit remarkable that one candidate has managed to hire so many of these loons. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #19
You have to wonder if they understand Democratic core values. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #22
orfalea is still an asshole Cha Jan 2020 #24
He was fired on the exact same day, I believe. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #26
A vile individual hired or promoted by a candidate revmclaren Jan 2020 #27
Lazy and sloppy vetting, because in the real world, people aspiring to be global leaders need to ... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #29
I agree with the first sentence Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #30
Things like this reveal much about someone's character and integrity. It's no surprise to me... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #28
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
1. Oh. My. God.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jan 2020

This campaign doesn't want African American votes.

It seems like they only want to whip up younger voters in Northern states with a lack of diversity to make them feel deprived and angry so they will vote against the Democratic nominee.

I have seen this movie before.

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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
2. The videos are shocking...the hit on MLK and verbal abuse of the mentally challange make me want
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jan 2020

to puke. Clearly, Sanders is going after the racist right and sadly some on the left.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. You left out "who cares about a random 10 year old video"?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jan 2020

Do the anti-Bernie people really think that voters really care about figuring out how offended they should be about 10-year-old parody videos? Like, more than social security or healthcare?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

revmclaren

(2,488 posts)
5. I care...my family cares...my friends care...people of color care...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jan 2020

Anyone with Democratic core values cares.

Voters do care and I think you, and other apologists for racist and vile content such as in this video and the Rogan videos, will be unpleasantly surprised when your candidate (who seems to embrace such anti-value individuals) ends up not to be the Democratic nominee.

Oh well...JPR will be hopping after the primaries.



ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
6. Except when people constantly tout endorsements from homophobic warmongering pro torture...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jan 2020

... pro austerity never trumpers because they are also against our progressive candidate and progressive legislation. That’s A-Ok! Then it’s all hands on deck! Amirite?

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revmclaren

(2,488 posts)
8. How about people who supported the Russian hacking, grucifer2.0 etc
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

and helped bring about Trump and the possible over turning of democracy we face today...or do I have to post a link or two to jog your memory? Lots of them in the archives. And since the hacking was against our country and effected both candidates who were running as Democrats, my posting the links wouldn't be refighting the primaries.

Should I Hassin Bin Sober?



. ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

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revmclaren

(2,488 posts)
25. Thanks...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Screen shot your approval.

Hoped you would approve.

Will post by 9pm pt. Have to access my terabyte drive when home. May have some saved to my phone though. Always happy to bring back memories to those who have forgotten the past.

This will open a can of worms of course as a lot of other familiar names are also there. And if the post is alerted on and hidden, hundreds will see it before it is and the links will be saved by those who care about democracy.

Have a wonderful day and TTYL.



ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

UPDATE: Sorry to leave you hanging but ended up working late and have to be at work early so will post those links sometime tomorrow evening.



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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Let's pretend the false equivalencies are rational rather than shrill-sounding.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jan 2020

In doing so, we may maintain the pretense of critical thought, regardless of whether reality dictates otherwise or no.

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BannonsLiver

(16,161 posts)
13. That's all they've got.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
20. What endorsements and who 'touts' it? Link...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jan 2020

I provided videos.

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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
15. You nailed it. These are Core Democratic values...and any of us understand that.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jan 2020
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. I too pretend different opinions equals "anti-Bernie"
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

Without that melodramatic and creative color, the unsupported narrative becomes tiresome very quickly, and we know Bernie's martyrdom-routine requires as such.

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Demsrule86

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11. Really, these are worst .... I could find more recent things...and yeah I think voters care...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jan 2020

particularly AA voters.

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OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
4. It is a part of a very bad pattern.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
12. You are exactly correct.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jan 2020
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. There should also be a poll about whether "handicapped" is an appropriate word to use for
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

people with special needs.

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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
14. Oh please...that is all you have?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:37 PM
Jan 2020
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. I don't "have" anything. I just think it would be a good poll to do, to see what people would think.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jan 2020

Don't you?

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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
21. Why don''t you address the issues. Your whataboutsism won't save the Sanders nomination.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jan 2020
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. Yes, I think it's important to avoid potentially offensive language like "handicapped".
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

But I don't think that the language someone who made a video used years ago is really a big issue in the campaign.

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TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
19. I find it a bit remarkable that one candidate has managed to hire so many of these loons.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jan 2020

Are they doing it on purpose? Or is this the best they can get?

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Demsrule86

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22. You have to wonder if they understand Democratic core values.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jan 2020
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Cha

(295,899 posts)
24. orfalea is still an asshole
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jan 2020
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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
26. He was fired on the exact same day, I believe.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jan 2020
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revmclaren

(2,488 posts)
27. A vile individual hired or promoted by a candidate
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jan 2020

can do a lot of damage to a candidates reputation in just a few hours.

Just saying...



ONLY!!! 2020 and beyond.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
29. Lazy and sloppy vetting, because in the real world, people aspiring to be global leaders need to ...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jan 2020

Lazy and sloppy vetting, because in the real world, people aspiring to be global leaders need to demonstrate better judgment, and if a candidate can't get right the small stuff, or the simple stuff... it's not a very good indicator that he (or she, whatever) will be able to govern wisely and effectively.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
30. I agree with the first sentence
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jan 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. Things like this reveal much about someone's character and integrity. It's no surprise to me...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

Things like this reveal much about someone's character and integrity. It's no surprise to me that the AA and POC communities have been wary and standoffish and very noncommittal when it comes to a certain candidate.

Something like this is disqualifying, in my opinion. He should just go ahead and withdraw from the race. It's unforgivable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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