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Democratic Primaries

DetlefK

(16,423 posts) Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:24 PM Jan 2020

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What is the proper way to criticize a democratic candidate on this forum?

Suppose I find a news-article about a democratic primary-candidate, showing that he/her/they stole a baby's pacifier.
Just this one candidate.
This news-article would make people less likely to vote for him/her/them but does NOT contain information that would make people more likely to vote for another Democrat instead.

Can I post that this person stole a pacifier from a baby or would that be "bashing a democratic figure"?

If posting that a democratic primary-candidate stole a baby's pacifier were to count as "bashing a democratic figure", then what other avenues would I have to present this information on DU? Or is such information in general not allowed on DU during primary-/election-season?

How could I criticize a Democrat for stealing a baby's pacifier without that counting as "bashing a democratic figure?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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What is the proper way to criticize a democratic candidate on this forum? (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2020 OP

Not calling them names is a good start. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #1

It's not name-calling to call a thief a thief. DetlefK Jan 2020 #16

The rule, as I understand it, would allow you to post a factual article from a reputable source. pnwmom Jan 2020 #2

There are moderation guidelines squirecam Jan 2020 #3

Good idea. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #19

That's an excellent question Mosby Jan 2020 #4

Before posting be sure it's true and verifiable, just for starters. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #5

Maybe doing so constructively would be a start. Enoki33 Jan 2020 #6

How about talking about the things you like about any of them. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #7

Self-censorship it is then. DetlefK Jan 2020 #17

I would ignore the allegations of "bashings" and "hit jobs"... brooklynite Jan 2020 #8

Exactly. See several juries a day for Alerts where someone's feelings got hurt by a harmless post. Hoyt Jan 2020 #10

Depends on the jury. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #9

You just take your chances as your experience here allows. defacto7 Jan 2020 #11

Good question. I did like the Buttigeig video you posted earlier. jalan48 Jan 2020 #12

Fight for who you like not against the one you don't. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #13

Self-censorship it is. DetlefK Jan 2020 #18

Based on what I've seen deleted or left standing redqueen Jan 2020 #14

good question KT2000 Jan 2020 #15

Your question is the world's largest strawman. Politicub Jan 2020 #20

BannonsLiver

(16,294 posts)

1. Not calling them names is a good start.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:26 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

16. It's not name-calling to call a thief a thief.

Reply to BannonsLiver (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:58 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)

2. The rule, as I understand it, would allow you to post a factual article from a reputable source.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:26 PM

Jan 2020

That's not the same as "bashing" -- especially during the primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

squirecam

(2,706 posts)

3. There are moderation guidelines

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:27 PM

Jan 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

This should go in the ask admin section. I would delete the thread.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)

19. Good idea.

Reply to squirecam (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:42 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Mosby

(16,258 posts)

4. That's an excellent question

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:28 PM

Jan 2020

I don’t have all the facts to be able to answer that question accurately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)

5. Before posting be sure it's true and verifiable, just for starters.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:45 PM

Jan 2020

Then ask more questions:

When did it happen, 50 years ago or 10 years ago or last month?

Did the candidate take the pacifier away from a younger sibling when he was 3 years old, or did he take it last week at a campaign event?

If the incident was recent, why did it happen? Was the baby his or someone else's that he knew? Did the candidate take the pacifier because he thought the baby was choking or because the pacifier had gotten dirty and he wanted to protect the baby? Did he take his own baby's pacifier away because he was trying to wean the baby away from it? Did he take the pacifier away from a stranger's baby with no warning and no explanation?

Is the incident relevant to the candidate's policies, his attitude towards babies or his personality in general? Did it clearly demonstrate either a moral failing or an attempt to protect?

Before posting a report of an incident that looks superficially like "bashing" or that carries a tendentious headline suggesting something unflattering, find out what really happened and why. Include all relevant information, positive and negative. Consider the possibility that the incident was not what it seemed. UThere may be circumstances where taking away a baby's pacifier is a good thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)

6. Maybe doing so constructively would be a start.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:45 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)

7. How about talking about the things you like about any of them.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:48 PM

Jan 2020

We don’t need to eat our own.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

17. Self-censorship it is then.

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:59 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

brooklynite

(94,331 posts)

8. I would ignore the allegations of "bashings" and "hit jobs"...

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:51 PM

Jan 2020

...too many people are overly sensitive to criticism of their preferred candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

10. Exactly. See several juries a day for Alerts where someone's feelings got hurt by a harmless post.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:54 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

9. Depends on the jury.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:53 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

defacto7

(13,485 posts)

11. You just take your chances as your experience here allows.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:04 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

jalan48

(13,841 posts)

12. Good question. I did like the Buttigeig video you posted earlier.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:16 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)

13. Fight for who you like not against the one you don't.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:21 PM

Jan 2020

Why bring up negative stuff about any Democratic candidate. We have plenty of trolls and FuxYouz for that.

Support your Democratic choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

18. Self-censorship it is.

Reply to LakeArenal (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:09 PM

Jan 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

14. Based on what I've seen deleted or left standing

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:24 PM

Jan 2020

it seems to depend on whose ox is being gored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

KT2000

(20,568 posts)

15. good question

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:26 PM

Jan 2020

I'm getting so many jury requests and I don't know how to discuss the pros and cons of a candidate without it considered bashing by someone. I am tempted to opt out of any of the "bashing" complaints.

Also - Sanders is an issue with me. Is it bashing to state that he was not a Democrat but is now running as a Democrat? Those alerts show up often. He bashes Democrats so I will be opting out of juries for posts about him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Politicub

(12,165 posts)

20. Your question is the world's largest strawman.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:55 PM

Jan 2020

It’s breathtaking in scope, so you should be proud. Bravo.

Why don’t you tell us the article you want to post? Otherwise, this is a useless exercise of navel gazing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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