Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)"Over my dead political body is George Wallace going to get it," Biden said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I really don't think going back to the 70s for quotes is a great path for the Biden campaign to go down.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)because REASONS!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)FEARS that his children would grow up in a RACIAL JUNGLE .Bernie is too nice a guy to put that in a TV AD . .. Donald Trump won't be so gentle with Biden in the Fall ..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Is perfectly reasonable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)from the hotbed of social justice to lilly white rural Vermont.
He was traveling in Europe with his new wife during the height of the Vietnam war protests, so there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)1972, really?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)"solutions to our problems"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....the March on Washington in 1963.
1963, really?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)Wrong location.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)From Business Insider : " Biden said in 1977 that certain that certain Desegregation policies would cause his children to grow up in a RACIAL JUNGLE " Published July15 , 2019 .. OH NO JOE
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)What problems would those be?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...are controlled by special interests.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)What solutions did George Wallace advocate for "our problems"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,605 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwhile847
(5 posts)The Biden folks really seem to be getting nervous when they have to resort to stuff like this. Bernie has consistently applauded politicians from both ends of the spectrum who advocate for the working class. This does not mean he supported Wallace's racism. Nice try though. This will only galvanize Bernie's base even further; just like Warren's failed attempt to label Bernie a sexist. I can't wait to tell you guys to "Vote Blue No Matter Who!"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The date of the newspaper.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)As were other Democrats.
So do we judge our candidates on every decision that they ever made, including some from 47 years ago?
Good luck with that. Who will be left?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:21 PM - Edit history (1)
"No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat
So there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In my view, purity politics can be corrosive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Sure you're on the right board?
But can you remind me how long ago the MLK march was that Bernie brings up as cred for his being progressive?
Here's the question again, in case you missed it the first time.
Remind me, how long ago was that?
Didn't think you'd want to go there after you brought "47 years ago" into the discussion as being too long ago to be relevant..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)to group unity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But I can understand why you would backpedal.
But you still haven't answered my question:
You said:
And I asked how long ago the MLK march was that Bernie brings up often as cred for being progressive.
I can see this is very uncomfortable for you, so I'll give you a hint.
It was 56 years ago.
I suppose you will scold anyone who brings that up that as being too long ago to judge him on?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)If that was unclear, let this be the clearest statement I can make.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)When something unflattering is brought up about his record or statements, it's always, "that was so long ago, it's not relevant."
But the progressive bona fide presented about him whenever his social justice record or statements are critcized is, "He marched with MLK" and "he was arrested chained to a BLACK WOMAN," which happened long before his political career even began.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,068 posts)Seems to be quite the fashion today. Plenty flying from both sides. I have a feeling we are gonna lose.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)then the bar got set to going back even farther..
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/12/1500183/-Where-was-Bernie-Sanders-Chained-to-a-Black-Woman
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dr. Strange
(25,898 posts)than have someone other than their favorite candidate win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...bashed relentlessly about? Oh no, he gave a eulogy at STROM THURMOND'S funeral! They guy wasn't even alive anymore yet he's been bashed for cozying up to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)tries to smear Biden? That the BS campaign is "desperate"?
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Attack Biden for the same thing BS did...hmmm?
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/
Sanders presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.
https://apnews.com/31c432f20acba807a569c7004abaf473
Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I hear tell how Bernie isn't going to tolerate any of this "reach accross the aisle to the enemy" bull shit once he's been elected by a landslide.
Which is it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,161 posts)are kicking the stuffing out of Trump in their ads every day.
Donald J. Trump is our enemy. Period.
This infighting is all wrong, and will bite us in the ass next November if it doesn't stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)then they can't complain when other things they did even more recently get the spotlight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)...to which Hillary supporters of the time tried to push an "OMG! Obama is a Reagan supporter!!!" narrative.
Second verse, same as the first...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jg10003
(974 posts)Demagogues like wallace and trump are aware of people's fears, anxieties, and prejudices, and then exploit them for their own gain.
Good leaders, like Bernie, are also aware of what people are feeling. However rather then exploit people's fear and anxieties, good leaders will try to address them in a reasonable and compassionate way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jg10003
(974 posts)of a customer and is able to adjust his sales pitch accordingly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)most of the time ... with Wallace, Iran, Russia, Cuba, guns .... and the list goes on
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)is to be re-hashing half-century-old arguments. That's what's going to win votes in November. I'm so fucking glad this is the conversation we're having.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden