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In reply to the discussion: University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions [View all]pnwmom
(108,955 posts)28. Another thing some people don't realize is that some of the best students
might not necessarily do as well as expected.
A top math student I knew took calculus in 10th grade. So by the time of senior year, all the algebra and geometry was a distant memory. The way the test was scored that year, getting two wrong dropped the score from 800 to 720 or 730. The schools know this, so if they're concerned about ability, they don't care. If they care more about keeping their average SAT score elevated, then they might reject that top student. The one I know graduated with a GPA of 5 from a top engineering school and then went on to get a PhD in engineering from another top school.
But her math SAT was about the same as mine, a solid Alg/Geometry student but no math genius. What a joke.
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But these tests don't test critical reasoning. The SAT is mostly a vocabulary and reading test
pnwmom
May 2020
#1
You're conflating the fitness of the SAT and ACT admissions tests with the general public's lack of
Yavin4
May 2020
#3
They thought it worked as a "brand," since they decided calling it an "Aptitude" test
pnwmom
May 2020
#11
Therein lies the problem. Note these tests are owned by private companies and it's all about money.
onetexan
May 2020
#29
spend your entire high school yrs playing w/your phone in class and can't pass the SAT?
msongs
May 2020
#4
Who wants to pay higher education money when you can't go to the higher education campus?
Initech
May 2020
#5
I learn more off well-selected YouTube and Open Culture than I did in most college courses
bucolic_frolic
May 2020
#17
So now we are saying the only thing SAT and ACT measured is White cultural bias and vocabulary?
Ford_Prefect
May 2020
#18
The SAT and ACT was the only way I got into college as a non diagnosed dyslexic in '69.
marble falls
May 2020
#19