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Xolodno

(6,330 posts)
33. Hmmm....
Fri May 22, 2020, 08:33 PM
May 2020

When I took the SAT....ages ago, I needed a specific score to "qualify" for consideration. Suspected I might have to try a few times....hit it on my first try. And got into a good school.

The score if I recollect was based on the classes you took, grades you got, etc. So that can be subjective.

One algebra teacher had the reputation of giving out the most homework every year and she stated in class "I'm going to keep that reputation". Long story short, I couldn't keep up, particularly with parents who had absolutely no knowledge of algebra. And my brother contracting a debilitating disease that put him in a a long term hospital for six months didn't help either.

Long story short, scraped by with a D and the next year took "Consumer Math"....and promptly aced it. My Junior year I went back to Algebra, with a different instructor and got a B+. Think that says something.

But the ultimate irony in this, after I got accepted and chose the school....I had to take tests again at the University for placement. English/Vocabulary....went straight to the college level.

Math...because I couldn't take all the classes back in high school due to a certain math teacher and her pride...well, I didn't go straight into college level math. But none the less, I did well. I even went into Econ Statistics/Econometrics before I even finished my Gen Ed for Statistics. I aced that class as well and since it included a lab, was frequently tapped to tutor everyone else who was having trouble.

So in retrospect, it the University has their own tests....why not use theirs?

But these tests don't test critical reasoning. The SAT is mostly a vocabulary and reading test pnwmom May 2020 #1
GOOD!!! LovingA2andMI May 2020 #2
You're conflating the fitness of the SAT and ACT admissions tests with the general public's lack of Yavin4 May 2020 #3
Then how come the SAT was called the SAT Reasoning Test? alp227 May 2020 #6
Most students do well based on the prep courses and other materials JI7 May 2020 #9
They thought it worked as a "brand," since they decided calling it an "Aptitude" test pnwmom May 2020 #11
I did shitty on my SATs, but I got through undergrad with little to no problem. Yavin4 May 2020 #21
Another thing some people don't realize is that some of the best students pnwmom May 2020 #28
Do you have kids in school now? Yavin4 May 2020 #20
Therein lies the problem. Note these tests are owned by private companies and it's all about money. onetexan May 2020 #29
spend your entire high school yrs playing w/your phone in class and can't pass the SAT? msongs May 2020 #4
Who wants to pay higher education money when you can't go to the higher education campus? Initech May 2020 #5
I agree LeftInTX May 2020 #7
They often benefit those with money and hurt the poor JI7 May 2020 #8
If prep courses improve your score... Yavin4 May 2020 #22
It's always been the ability to take the test. JI7 May 2020 #23
Not enough enrollees due to costs rickyhall May 2020 #10
Standards in teaching should not be dropped BUT onlyadream May 2020 #12
The common core has big intrinsic problems too, though. Squinch May 2020 #14
Common core isn't perfect but onlyadream May 2020 #32
I don't think Smith and Chicago are dumbing down anything. Squinch May 2020 #13
The SAT test has its origins in anti-Semitism. madaboutharry May 2020 #15
Standardized test scores are not the best predictors of college success. Lonestarblue May 2020 #16
I learn more off well-selected YouTube and Open Culture than I did in most college courses bucolic_frolic May 2020 #17
So now we are saying the only thing SAT and ACT measured is White cultural bias and vocabulary? Ford_Prefect May 2020 #18
The SAT and ACT was the only way I got into college as a non diagnosed dyslexic in '69. marble falls May 2020 #19
I agree, teach critical reasoning, and dump SAT/ACT biased by design against the underprivileged. 0nirevets May 2020 #24
It's possible to be pro intellectualism AND be against the SAT/ACT tests Yavin4 May 2020 #25
But don't good grades come FROM understanding the material? alp227 May 2020 #26
To a large extent, education today has become a giant video game... Yavin4 May 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar May 2020 #30
I understand the objection to these tests, but.... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #31
Hmmm.... Xolodno May 2020 #33
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