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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:06 PM Original message |
CNN/AP: C-sections in U.S. reach all-time high |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. 2 reasons I've been told: |
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shugah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. the convenience angle is an interesting one |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Yes, its the doctor's convenience, not the patient's that is the issue. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. ONE day after your due date?!?! That guy is NOT practicing good |
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drmom (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
141. You can't say that without knowing the circumstances! |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #141 |
162. You're correct, but the post impies that everything was normal. |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. That doesn't mean it's pain-free, though. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You make a good point. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
71. I had two c-sections, first one non-scheduled,, was told my second |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
139. I had two c sections and my third was a vaginal delivery. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. I've talked to many women who had C-sections for convenience.. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. brittney spears, hello? |
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hallc (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. im doing it that way |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. It is your choice. |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
85. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about birth. |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:43 AM Response to Reply #85 |
159. I Had Mine Naturally & No Meds -- Lots Of Perks To It |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
140. Small scar? Not on my tummy. |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
163. I plan on having a C-section for that reason and it's not vanity |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. There's a link between C-Sections and schizophrenia in children |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
117. I knew nothing about that |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #97 |
238. Is this an absolute fact? Has it been proved beyond |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 03:32 AM Response to Reply #238 |
243. I never knew about this before, |
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Dulcinea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 06:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
104. Caesarean births |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't know quite how to respond |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Congratulations, motocicleta! nt |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Thanks all, but |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Hey there's a |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. not offended, but I am a dork |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Aw :) |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I'm too tired to think straight, but I am smiling now |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Good :) |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I hear ya... |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. I believe the thing we are doing wrong is treating pregnancy and birth |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
120. Yup, I think you're right |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Congratulations and I admire your courage. |
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ImADeanDem (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
176. BINGO! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
189. "Women are mad to give birth" |
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PunkPop (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. I was talking to a co-worker who transferred to the Netherlands |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
86. home birth is the norm in the Netherlands, and midwife attended is |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #86 |
121. That's awesome.... |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. you can have a homebirth here! |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. there are medical conditions that make it a worse idea though |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. of course. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #147 |
157. Right on my question |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #131 |
233. If I'd had a home birth |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. Face it, Stanwyck |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #235 |
245. Why would a mother |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #245 |
255. You really haven't done any reading on this issue, have you? |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #255 |
257. Name your source |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #257 |
259. Here are just a few. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #257 |
263. Nice try, but I don't have to convince you |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. We all have different experiences. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #236 |
244. Kailassa, you show much more patience than I on this one. |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. Well, I guess it's a matter of keeping in mind |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I was wondering what DMM was congratulating you for |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. yay, another homebirther! |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
79. I agree. Best day of my life, and we never left the house! |
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ImADeanDem (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
175. Moto, were you "on board" with the idea right away? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would have to have a C-section, because I just couldn't go |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Have to ask -- have you experienced labor? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It's |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. and you know |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. You say I don't have to feel pain...I THINK I've found the solution to it |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
94. heh |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
151. So |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. It'll be okay |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I do have my plan worked out now |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
98. J. Temperance, from all the wonderfully good-natured |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #98 |
152. Aw, what a nice thing to comment |
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thinkingwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
146. I experienced labor |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
229. I don't have children |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #229 |
252. Caesarian is major surgery, recovering is painful, |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Oh honey, if you have insurance or cash, you won't have immense pain. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Okay |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
145. Nooooo! |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. Oh heck...now I'm all confused |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. You are strong enough. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Okay EVERYBODY that's in this thread |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
124. That takes me back to my grand-daughter's birth. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. awww, don't wimp out! |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. I'm a |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. c-sections are very painful. No doubt about it, I've had two due |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Heck |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
90. Drugs are used of course. Some them get into the baby's system. |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #90 |
130. That was my experience too (both C/S and vaginal births) |
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Lumily (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I've never had a C-section, but... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. I had 3 sections within 5 years, the last 2 in 12 months.. |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
125. Exactly. Lying on your back with a pregnant belly .. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. what risks? My grandson was fine! |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. No, you're misunderstanding: CS are fine for emergency situations. |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
142. I had two c secs and then |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. Oh Honey.... |
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Danmel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
116. I was in the hospital after my baby was born too |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. Yes that would be very heart breaking n/t |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. One reason my friends went for C-sections... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
170. Now how are they able to do that? The uterus takes longer to |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. PS am I the only guy interested in this topic? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. At the moment is appears you are |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I am so totally interested in this topic. |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It is possible |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 12:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
103. That is pretty cool... |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. sweet! nice to hear from you electric |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
102. Wow, kindered spirits I guess... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
100. There ARE male midwives. A friend who is a writer interviewed one for an |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. No, but maybe we're keeping our mouths shut. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. 'Insecure men' |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. OK, how's about "Clumsy clueless Fuckers who heard too many... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. thank you! |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. Interesting question |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. more men I don't want to hang out with |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
101. I think my hubby suffers from that problem, unfortunately. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. sorry kath, I didn't mean to run anybody down |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
143. good chance is not about seeing you give birth.... |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
118. Elvis allegedly refused to have sex |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
82. LOL...most men think that? |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
87. probably a lot...too bad folks don't know that is what Kegel's are for.nt |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. I do... |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
149. Actually, you're not far from the mark. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
155. I'm sure that does happen at times, BiggJawn, |
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Qibing Zero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
262. Ouch, that's just wrong. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. Does the doctor or hospital make more money for a C-section? |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yes, they make much more |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Link |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. It's not the hospital that has ultimate choice. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. If you want VBACs to increase and CS to go down... |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
112. this is why tort reform is such a sticky issue! |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
132. You're right, but it's more complicated than that |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
261. Bullshit. |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Its the percieved avoidance of risk by the docs that drives this |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
30. I totally enjoyed giving birth naturally and the Lamaze classes. |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I highly recommend a hot tub! |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I highly recommend hot tubs too...oh yes I do declare :) n/t |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. My sister gave birth in a big tub last year |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Excellent classic book! |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. It's such a beautiful book |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
126. *Shivering at the idea* |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Me, too......lol.... |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. I had my 2 kids at home, and agree with you especially on this: |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
75. Right, it's the hours of contractions that wear you out...not the birth. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
33. insurance |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
92. Convenience?? |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. one word: interventions... |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Thanks for pointing that out |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
84. exactly and precisely correct. nt |
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Danmel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. I had two c-sections- I wish I could have delivered naturally |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. I'm so glad your doctor made the right decisions |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. The MacDuffs lay on.... |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
68. Many of these babies end up in the ICU |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #68 |
133. I lived in Colleyville when I had my unnecessary C-section |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. Ignorant not-yet-a-mother question... ;) |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. GOOD QUESTION! |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Wow. That makes me feel a bit better. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. My wife reported that the experience wasn't painful at all |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. lol...I'm not going to scare you off here I hope |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
128. Well, for me |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #69 |
247. let's put it this way: in the middle of labor, I cried to hubby, |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
76. My mother had twelve children. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
119. She sounds just like my boyfriend's mom |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
83. My first was a breech birth |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Well, it was not for me! |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. what reality are you talking about? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 08:47 AM Response to Reply #93 |
106. Read my post again, please |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. It appears you are angry at what happened to your daughter. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. good lord, you are taking this WAY too personally |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #111 |
134. It is a heated subject |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. I applaud you. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. Thanks fleabert. Back at ya. |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. if only people did some research about things before spouting off... |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I give up |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #93 |
164. I think that people who says that pain is a way to really feel your child' |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #164 |
171. Do you understand her telling me my choice is a bunch of hooey? |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #171 |
197. I think she could have phrased it better |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #197 |
206. If you would, perhaps you could provide some citations for these |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #206 |
209. I've met these people in person |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. So the answer is no |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. I wasn't supporting the rudeness |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. A statement like what? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #212 |
213. I'm in awe of the patience and gentle reason you are showing here. |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. Thanks K |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Some people like to learn, |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #213 |
222. do you really think I am attacking her? |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #212 |
223. That her opinion has no pubic worth |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #223 |
226. Thanks for the clarification |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #212 |
224. Never mind |
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union_maid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
105. This is interesting |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. A fun fact about "scheduling" |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. your daughter's dr. was basing his opinion on vbac on som very |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
113. Doctors are out of control. n/t |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
135. I wonder if the increase relates to increase in STDs or to older mothers? |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:25 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. In Brazil c-sections are over 60% of births. |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #136 |
148. and a highly misogynistic society. |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #148 |
219. It's interesting because the articles blame the doctors... |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #135 |
154. Actually, I also wonder if the current trend... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
138. If it's the "preference of mothers and physicians" |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #138 |
153. If mother chooses to have a C-section after being informed |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Not just the fear, it's the reality |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #156 |
166. I don't blame you one bit for choosing to have anaesthesia ... |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #166 |
172. Criminy, Kailassa |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #166 |
185. Oh, Kailassa..... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #185 |
205. Now you have really made me chuckle ;-) |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:30 AM Response to Reply #153 |
158. anyone else hear the sound of a nail being hit on the head squarely? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #158 |
167. Thanks Fleabert, and you are right. |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 04:54 AM Response to Reply #167 |
208. as a doula, I can say that most c-sections do involve a epidural, |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #208 |
214. Thanks for the info, Fleabert. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
144. I have done it both ways...natural and c-section |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:55 AM Response to Reply #144 |
160. IMO: The Culture Of Fear Permeates Everywhere, Even Childbirth |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #160 |
168. LOL, I'm very glad you did not have aspirin. |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. That's My Point -- Jeez People Just Freak Out Over Childbirth |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #160 |
169. Please remember you are just speaking for yourself |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. Of Course I'm Speaking For Myself, I NEVER SAID |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #160 |
178. OTOH, some women don't "ride" they feel intense pain |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Yes But Not All Childbirth Requires This! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #180 |
190. You are right |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. We Live In Kind Of A Surgical Society I Guess! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. No, these women aren't into boob jobs and tattoos |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. I Didn't Say They Were! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #196 |
201. geez, let's not even get STARTED with breastfeeding |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 01:56 AM Response to Reply #201 |
220. And on the cosmetic surgery vs childbirth note... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #220 |
221. If anything, I need to go into the opposite direction |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
161. I see that some have recommended Ina May Gaskin's books. |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #161 |
165. Fear, loss of trust, giving up power to the "professionals"..... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #165 |
181. I Found Counter-Pressure Incredibly Effective Pain Relief |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Yes, I had great aversion to the thought of being in hospital |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #183 |
187. Yeah I Also Wanted To Sit Up -- Gravity Is Our Friend! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #187 |
204. io. what the hell you talkitg about? |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #165 |
182. I Wanted To Feel What It Was Like, For Me Breastfeeding Hurt WORSE! |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. First time breastfeeding was "sensitive" for me as well.....LOL... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Well....Second WeekWas Better Than The First.... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #161 |
179. childbirth is not without risk |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #179 |
188. Of course it's not for everyone. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #188 |
193. There are conflicting theories about the safety of epidurals |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #188 |
198. I would think that any anesthesia would have an adverse effect on |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. I don't know about "top sport effort" |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. After 24 hours of labor it certainly felt like a marathon effort.... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. I had an epidural with my last child |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. No, I am sorry - I don't see why you see my experience |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #161 |
225. Other book recommendations |
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williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
173. One Reason could be women are having babies at later age. I had |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #173 |
192. Another contributing factor is overweight/obesity. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. not all women have a lot of pain while delivering |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
207. Has to do also with increase in older women having children.... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #207 |
215. There are some problems that are more likely to develop |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. Define "older" |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #217 |
227. From the medical journals and medical articles I have read.... |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 06:16 AM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Now even if you were right about "most older women ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Deleted message |
Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #230 |
237. So "medical journals" = "womens' health magazines" ... *sigh* |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #237 |
241. Women's health magazines print true information |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #241 |
242. Womens' magazines are not medical journals. |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #242 |
250. Not Really |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. This is really the best you can do? |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #251 |
253. Okay, go ahead and clap. |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. Yes, you have found more irrelevant articles ... |
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ThePopulist (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #254 |
256. re: |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #256 |
258. No, I did not call you a sensationalist, I said the misinformation |
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NNguyenMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
231. my personal opinion of why this is the case...newer generation of OB's |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #231 |
240. Yes, some of the older obstetricians were wonderful people. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
232. If I had not had a crash C-section |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #232 |
234. I'm just curious who you're talking to here |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #234 |
246. I have no problem with rising C-section rates |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #246 |
260. So then do you support malpractice against OBs who mismanage births? |
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Kailassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #232 |
239. I hope you read my post 236. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
248. I never thought I'd have a C-section, but did. |
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