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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:12 PM Original message |
Army, Marine chiefs cast doubt on gay service |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Exactly who is in charge, anyway? n/t |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It isn't Obama---that's for sure |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. It's amazing, isn't it, how openly his subordinates defy him. |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. you do realize |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. President Obama is, but apparently he has not ordered military leaders to |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Expecting subordinate military officers to support the |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Once Obama orders the end of DADT, then his subordinate military officers WILL support it. |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. A lot of people around here remember senior officials from |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It doesn't matter what is in Congress or what the POTUS WANTS done. |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Same false argument they used about integrating women. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. FYI - women are not ingegrated into the ground combat units that Amos and Casey |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Yes I know. I was referring to integration in general. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Gotcha, but the arguement then is still the reason why women are not allowed in |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. That's the argument |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. I say about 10% of my unit in the USMC was gay, and the other 90% (including me) didn't give a shit |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Thanks for saying so. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. You will shut up, salute and obey your commander in chief's orders |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Funny, isn't that the exact opposite of what people here were saying prior to '03? |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. and that is what you will hear |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. What war ? Its become a job, another 10yrs and its retirement.. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well, that's great news! Just end the war then! n/t |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. This little kabuki dance is coming to a end. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. That is assuming that the Senate holds a straight up or down vote |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. As long as Reid brings it up as a stand alone bill, I don't think getting two republicans |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. The Brown turds changed his mind. I hope it's because the good ole |
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Roy Rolling (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. "during wartime" |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-03-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. apparently anti-gay senator MCCAIN is BUTT-FUCKING the nation |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
27. Why do so many writers lie? Gays ARE in the service and are allowed to be, as long as they hide who |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. Not so fast on 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal, say top Pentagon brass |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. AAAAAANND that's why chain of command can be a good thing. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. why should we care what these folks think? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I guess The Village People had the Navy pegged correctly? (NT) |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Sounds like the same arguments |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yep, and they will go on and on forever until SOMEONE takes charge and makes the call. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. YUP and futhermore |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Defense Secretary and President Obama should just say... |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yes he can, then the next CIC can bring it back |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Once it's eatablished, it wil be hard to retract. ... |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Air Force, Army & Marines are the 3 most CHRISTIANIZED branches of the military... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I don't even think it's that. They just wanted to make it through to retirement |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. No there is deep seated Evangelical Christian thinking at play here... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No need--I am well acquainted with what comes out of the AF Academy. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Where's all this freedom the military is allegedly fighting for? |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-04-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
44. Headline should read: "Gay service members cast doubt on whether evangelical and |
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