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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:18 PM Original message |
Can a "real' Christian support the war in Iraq ? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. No |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Technically, I'm Presbyterian... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hell, no!! |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have no defense. I will kick. And I will add - now is the season |
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JPJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Peace on Earth* |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. Those who seek to at least try to walk the path of Jesus Christ,... |
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Evening Star (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here are some Christians who do not support the right wing ideology |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Can't help you and this is a major issue for us. |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
63. Looks like a lovely church. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. Well, there is all that stuff in the Bible about the |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. I was going to post my own thread on this, kentuck. |
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madison2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. There is a "just war" tradition which has been important in |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I can agree with a just war, but this one ain't just |
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madison2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. No, I don't think it is either |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. just war theory really bothers me.... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. "Just war" = oxymoron |
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gaia_gardener (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm a Christian pacifist |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I disagree with you... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. You are putting words in Jesus's mouth |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I'm not a protestant... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. HAHAHA! Nice try. |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. I'm a Catholic.... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Again, you are putting words in my mouth |
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gaia_gardener (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
49. I believe there are better, |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. I understand.. |
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gaia_gardener (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Overall or in that one instance? |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I disagree with you.... |
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gaia_gardener (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. How can christianity not be about being Christlike? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. What part of "Love thine enemy as thyself" |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. gotta disagree here... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nope. |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. yes of course... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Sounds like your "Christian" wants it both ways ?? |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I don't think it's having it both ways... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I remember, Thou shalt not kill"... |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. what's your question? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Show us WHERE in the Bible Jesus condones killing |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. This is a rather poor understanding of that passage |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I don't think you can define Christ.. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. No fair. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. You are correct, so why did you try? |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I'm not saying God doesn't have certain ends |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. I agree that this war is wrong and not what Christ would want |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Sorry, I do not buy this model |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. The bible says a lot of things. Remember that the god who said... |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. oh man.. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. No |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. don't use Jesus to satisfy a political agenda |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The picture disturbs you. GOOD!! I hope you think about it all day. |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. again I'm not a protestant.. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Again, you are putting words in my mouth |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. When this poster says "I am not a Protestant" |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. HAHA! No fair. You answered for him. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Yeah, sorry about that. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. I'm a Catholic yep... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. The Roman Catholic Church was against the invasion of Iraq |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. that's not a binding teaching.... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Well--did you support the invasion of Iraq? |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I have nothing against the pope.. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
74. Blessed are the Peacemakers means . . . |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. Da Naz sez there ain't nothing in the world worth fighting for |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. When you get there, and you can't do it, then there you bloody well are, |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. Yes...many are brainwashed and think it's a just war |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. It is possible |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. Uh No, if you fully believe Christ's teachings, you can't be pro war |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. Jesus also said... |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
46. no, |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
48. who knows? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. There is a distinction between the Old and the New Testament.. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It's irrelevant |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Show me the other Bible quote to contradict what Jesus said... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. show me a quote that's reliable that shows ANYTHING |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. that's my argument.. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. it always surprises me |
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xerox (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. where is the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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xerox (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I know a few |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
75. No way in Hell. |
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essarhaddon (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
76. Let's remember some cultured Christians on tyrannicide |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. Being raised a Catholic, I can say either yes, |
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