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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:03 PM
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Poll question: Could You Ever Vote For A Democrat Who's Never Smoked Pot?
I think that would be pretty tough for me.

Not that I'm looking for a pothead president, but if someone who came out of the 60's says they never smoked weed then I'd be highly suspicious of them.

Irregardless of their current position on marijuana - medical or otherwise.

I read in Newsday today that Kerry, Dean, Edwards have all toked up.

That's good, since those are my top 3.

Clark, Kucinich, Sharpton and *shocker* Liberman all claimed to have never smoked.

Carol Mosely Braun refused to answer. My guess is that she probably has.

So, does it make a difference for you one way or the other if someone has smoked pot or not? Would you vote for someone who's never tasted the wacky tobaccy?
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:06 PM
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1. Depends. Can he juggle and/or ride a unicycle?
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:06 PM
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2. Why would you be suspicious?
Plenty of us "came from the 60's" and never did drugs. What's suspicious about it?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:07 PM
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3. I went thru the 60s
and have never even held a joint much less smoked one.

And there are millions like me.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:14 PM
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9. There is nothing to see here, move along.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 06:29 PM by Nailzberg
I made an ASS out of U and MPTION.

So I removed what I thought was a witty remark about UUs smoking or not smoking weed. Move along.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:20 PM
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17. Not a UU
I just liked the symbol...doesn't look anything like the UU one to me, but a couple of people have mentioned it.

Looks like I'll have to change it so I don't give people the wrong impression. :D
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:26 PM
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25. No need to change, we are very inclusive.
Use it all you want.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:19 PM
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14. never smoked it either had too much fun without it!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:23 PM
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20. Right...
Mass drug use in the 60s is a myth. It was much more common in the 70s, but even then, most of us did not indulge.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:07 PM
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4. I love when threads get moved
It's kinda like a DU version of the Star Trek 'beam me up' things.

:)
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:10 PM
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5. As a general rule, I don't like people who don't smoke pot.
They're a degenerate bunch of low lifes.

Medical conditions excepted.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:12 PM
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6. degenerate?
Please explain.

Do you mean potheads, people who smoke multiple times a day, every day?

People who smoke a joint after getting home from work?

People who smoke socially, at parties?

People who just smoke occasionally?

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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:15 PM
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11. I think you misread the post
The "degenerates" to which it referred are people who DON'T smoke pot.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:16 PM
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13. oh
yes...now I see. Damn glaucoma...where's my weed at?

;)
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:20 PM
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18. piece sine is degenerate! piece sine is generate!
Man, is he ever degenerating right now!
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:25 PM
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23. oops! misread #6's post!
Sorry Six, my mind's all twisted and freshly UN-degenerared. (it's posts like this, Magic Rat, that force me to remain incognito, if you git ma drift.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:13 PM
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7. "Irregardless" isn't a word.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:15 PM
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10. so
I'm so cool I can make up my own words.

:)
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:54 PM
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31. You and * have something in common.
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:13 PM
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8. It doesn't matter..
If they have, fine.

If they haven't, thats ok too.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:15 PM
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12. If they did or they didn't, just be honest about it.
There's a drunken cokehead in the White House right now, and his father's the biggest drug smuggler in the history of the US. I think we're a little past worrying about who smoked a joint 30 years ago. :hippie:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:19 PM
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15. Ahh, shoot. I don't remember half of what I did during one year
of college. So any Dems who say they haven't indulged, most likely did. Moot issue, IMO. Few who lived through the 60s came through unscathed... Although I wouldn't be so kind with continued use, in some ways, one might question whether that might not be better than Bush's supposed "dry drunk" behavior.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:23 PM
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21. You can't remember
what YOU did....so the rest of us must have smoked pot?

What kind of logic is that??

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:29 PM
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27. Oh, just being facetious, for heaven's sakes...
I'm probably the worst tea totaler around DU right now. I just don't like being so darned judgemental towards others, especially during that period of time when maturity has not yet totally taken hold.

If someone goes through their lives never drinking, never smoking pot, great. I don't judge someone who smoked a little pot recreationally during their college years and now drinks responsibly any different.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:20 PM
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16. YES, but Only if he opposes prohabition
And it pisses me off the many wealthy Dems smoke, but support the drug war because it doesn't effect them.

The poor get fcuked, the wealthy get high.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:21 PM
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19. We have a Liar in the white house already!
Why vote for Liar Lite?
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:26 PM
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26. Not all of us indulged
See my post below. I know of many others who didn't for various reasons. I went to parties with my husband, most of us indulged, he didn't. It wasn't about judging others, but about making a personal choice to stay out of trouble.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:24 PM
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22. Be real
Some folks smoked, others didn't for whatever reasons. My husband never did. His brother did a lot, got into trouble, so my husband made a stand and never indulged. It's all about choice and it matters naught about their presidency.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:26 PM
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24. It doesn't matter
Smoking pot, at least on an occaiional basis in a safe environment, is pretty much harmless. I don't know why a big deal is made of it. How often do they ask candidates if they have have been intoxicated with alcohol before they reached the legal drinking age? That's actually a possibly more dangerous behavior. Is this question meant to imply anything about the potential president's stance on the war on drugs. I think that someone who has actually tried pot can make a better decision about whether or not it should be legal or not. Too many people haven't and say it is bad but really don't have first hand experience.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:32 PM
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28. Maybe I am biased being a DK supporter but I believe him
Why would he lie about shit like this if hes for sensible drug laws. Keep in mind I am an non pothead for sensible drug laws but youngred can tell you that I wanna be one :D.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:43 PM
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29. lol
you wanna be....what?

A pothead...or someone for sensible drug laws?

:)
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:53 PM
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30. Of course I would
And Kucinich said he was in favor of decriminilization btw!

and CMB said she wasn't going to answer with a wink that told everyone what her history is.

Whether someone does or not makes no difference to me than if they had premarital sex, or drank. It doesn't reflect on them poorly or negatively unless done unhealthily and to excess
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:59 PM
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32. it doesn't matter to me either way
I'm guessing someone as involved in the church from such an early age as Sharpton...he is not necessarily lying. Don't forget, African-Americans are not (or least didn't use to be) as likely to smoke pot as whites. The legal hassles can be MUCH worse for them, so they are not as likely to see the good side of pot, and they don't tend to feel as free to experiment. So I wouldn't necessarily call Sharpton a liar or an un-adventurous person. If you think he is un-adventurous and afraid to take a chance just because he claims never to have smoked pot, I don't believe you know our Al.

Truthfully...While I can't picture a white teen in the 1970s getting by without some drug experimentation, the 1950s and 60s were not the 70s -- pot-smoking was actually far from universal in those days and it could be quite a divisive issue. A well-educated white person not trying pot at least once in the 50s or 60s? To me that is perfectly believable. Or the candidate in question could be fibbing because they don't want to set a bad example to the kids or whatever reason. I'm fine with that. Harmless drug use of this kind should be a private matter. It is well known that Whistleass was a major alcohol/cocaine abuser so I don't think mere pot smoking should be made an issue of one way or another. Why demand candidates acknowledge their pot smoking and give the Karl Roves of the world more to spin?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:08 PM
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33. Oh, come on! Be tolerant.
Let someone without a recreational drug past have a chance. After all, we know that Bush was seriously into mind-altering substances, and now he's basically a self-righteous, self-disciplined and still dysfunctional president.

Goody Two Shoes is more than welcome at the White House. He or she can't be any worse than what we have today.
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