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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:25 PM
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Do you stop at stop signs on private property, say, like grocery store parking lots?
Is it illegal to not stop at official-looking stop signs that are posted on private property?



If it's a store parking lot, who's going to give you a ticket? Store security? Can city police officers issue tickets on private property for public laws broken? I mean, if it's private property, how can public traffic laws apply? If that's the case, then are these stop signs just "suggestions" provided by the store owners? If so, then is the store using official signs illegally?

Aren't these stop signs copyrighted? :shrug:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:27 PM
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1. You want to take a chance of getting hit by another vehicle, by ignoring
the sign, and then having to deal with the insurance nightmares?

Not I.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:36 PM
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2. Well, if Callie, my cat, is hungry and there's no food in the house...
...and she wakes me up at 4am with her usual way of lying on my chest staring at me while purring, and I go out to the all-night grocery store where I live to pick up some cat food, and I'm driving through a deserted parking lot, I run the signs since stopping and looking around seems a little foolish...

Now, however, if I do and the only other car in sight is a police car parked some 200 yards away, would I be subject to a citation?

And would those stop signs have been expertly placed by experienced municipal traffic engineers, or some store flunky who uses "intuition" to place them?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:39 PM
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3. I choose my passive-aggressive acts of social defiance in ways that won't kill me.
So yeah, I stop at stop signs on private property even at three in the morning when I'm sure there's nothing coming. But my inspection sticker is expired, so I'm still a bad boy.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:07 PM
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4. Not me. If no one coming I roll 'em. But in general drive right on.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:44 PM
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5. Usually - there's too much potential for getting t-boned. However I pretty much always pull
through parking rows, so I get my stick-it-to-the-man fix that way...
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:47 PM
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6. Nope, and I always hope I get pulled
On another front, I want a "You Must be Nekkid" sign.

:hi:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:59 PM
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7. why wouldn't public laws apply?
You can get tickets for, say, illegally parking in a handicapped space or driving under the influence in parking lots, so why not stop signs?
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snailly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:01 PM
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8. Yes.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:07 PM
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9. yup, if I see a stop sign, I stop
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:10 PM
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10. I've seen some mega malls where the parking lots are
designated "streets," & are patrolled by local PD. And they give tickets for running stop signs, speeding, etc. The Forum in San Antonio springs to mind.

dg
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:14 PM
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11. Always.
I especially do so, even taking a little more time when there's some overly-impatient idiot on my tail. I'll even do the three-second wait you do at public stop signs :D

However, I also give pedestrians the right of way, let others back out of their parking places and give a nice good glare at the idiots parked (with the engine running) in the Fire Lane because it's oh-so-much-trouble to find a parking space while they wait on whomever.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:18 PM
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12. yup. If I see a stop sign, I stop.
And it pisses me off big time to see people driving diagonally across lanes in parking lots, zooming along...no matter what time of day. How the hell do I know the driver isn't drunk or stupid, texting or just totally careless?

Cars are dangerous; heavy machinery, and all that. The people who own the private property don't want to get embroiled in a lawsuit, either, just because you're in a hurry and an accident happens. I guess it comes down to treating others' private property with some respect, too, even if it is just a slab of asphalt.

I've had a few near misses in 'deserted' parking lots when I've run out to get my cat some food at the store at 3 a.m.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:46 PM
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13. not if there aren't any other cars around
depends on the traffic

of course I use this approach on public roads too:P
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:33 AM
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14. Yes. nt.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:59 AM
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15. generally yes
would hate to find out the wrong way that they were legal.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:38 PM
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16. I stop at a stop sign
because whether or not it's a "legal" issue, the person who thinks they have the right of way isn't likely to stop if they think I'm supposed to

Avoid the accident... best course of action.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:47 PM
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17. Hell, I speed up. They don't own me. They're not my boss, man. I'll run down their damn customers.
I'll do it smilin', too. If you're on private property, I don't even think manslaughter charges would apply. They'd all be like, "We arrested Mr Bucky doing 90mph thru a parking lot and plowing into a pack of orphaned senior citizens, Your Honor," and the judge'd go, "Shyeah, right. Like it's private property, policedudes, so like du-uuh, whatevers."

It'd be all awesome like that.

 
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:51 PM
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18. I would think you could get a ticket for failing to stop at any stop sign, even if it
is in a parking lot. Traffic rules apply to parking lots. And yes I stop. I don't want to hit a pedestrian.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:53 PM
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19. Nope..I treat it like a yield sign
Especially if the sign is being held up by a coffee can full of cement. Around here the only people that can contact you for doing that on private property is the state patrol. And we never see troopers outside of the highway.
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