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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-18-10 11:56 PM Original message |
WOW, lots of blood in Chicago-stan..., Mayor Daley, blames the victims |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. The irony impairment never ends... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Wow.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. yes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Has a gun ever saved your life? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And if the hospital staff had blown your great grandfather away in self-defense |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Then |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. I have the right to pull a gun on someone if they deny me medical care? |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. If |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I do have kids and I probably would have done the same thing |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Using a handgun for self-defense... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. You obviously don't have children |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 04:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Malum in se vs. malum prohibitum |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Shame on you... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. I see you are first in line with blame-shifting and personal attack... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
79. Projection is as rampant as irony impairment with some folks |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. My, my more personal attacks.... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-23-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Hams, Hams, who is getting free Ham? n/t |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. I am currently not crippin in chicago, not my fucking problem. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. I see that gun control works well in OZ |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is so ass-backwards I don't know where to start. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nope, never said that.. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Tell you what - you show me where Daley "blames the victims" |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Ok |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You conveniently skipped this part: |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Daley has bigger problems than that. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. In short, Daley blames everyone except his own government |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Daley missed this part: |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. There are NEVER enough people to enforce it |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Disarming the law-abiding will not disarm the criminals. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. And you don't live anywhere near an urban area |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Ahh, urban dwellers do not have the Right to self-defense. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Please point me to the "right to self-defense" in the Constitution... |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sure, will do, if you point out the "right to breathe" in the Constitution |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Nice straw man. |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. No, you're wrong. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
63. The principle of self-defense is implicit in the ability to bear arms. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. It is an inherent right. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Urban, Rural? What's the difference? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I'd be happy to point out the difference. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. And why do they "live in fear"? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. In an urban environment, there's a lot more opportunity |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. So your tradoff is... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I'm telling you that's the reality, right or wrong. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. The reality is... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. They may be miserable, but they're not Les Miserables |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Ignorant much? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I'm only twelve years past poverty in a large city, thanks. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You have a payday, do you? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I worked at Tempus, Inc.. day labor basically. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Wow. Clueless run in your family? n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. And none of that ever happens in rural areas? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. Now there is no crime in rural areas? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Dallas, TX isn't urban? |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
77. Of course not! Don't be silly. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. nonsense: in countries which are disarmed, there is little to no gun violence. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. So instead they have a much higher rate of other violent crimes. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. please document that assertion. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Are EU member states "first world democracies"? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania: no. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So what are your criteria for a "first world democracy"? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Easy: GB France Germany Italy ... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I didn't ask for a list; I asked for criteria |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. This could get interesting. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Or not. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. google first world nations |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. If YOU want to be honest, don't shift the goalposts |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Already done |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. " Europe has a much higher violent crime rate, although not as deadly." |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Actually I will challenge it. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Find a better source than wiki. N/T |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. How about the ICVS? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. robbery in general is not a violent crime |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Robbery is a violent crime |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. As tburnsten says, robbery is classed as a violent crime |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-20-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You may be confusing robbery and burglary. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Like Jamaica, you mean? |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. And, as we all know, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Deleted message |
shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No "gun nut" has EVER called for "every moron" to have a gun |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Oooo. Name calling. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
27. 'Stop bitch'n and start snitch'n'... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Snitches get stitches. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
32. "Albert Einstein, once said.." - no he didn't. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. But it would be a good working definition of stupidity. N/T |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Not really. Irrational repetitive behavior is part of OCD. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
82. At least rats have the good sense to abandon a sinking ship |
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