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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:10 PM Original message |
Gun goes off in hospital, hits six - with one bullet |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. I was absolutely "descended upon" months ago when.. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. With millions of CCW permit holders, there will be a few idiots. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I would not dispute that... |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Essentially no limits is simply not true |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
104. Delete |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
105. The same way we deal with any other type of idiot. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. So was BP with their frigging oil well |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
98. One has nothing to do with the other. N/T |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Well this guy did have a Concealed Carry License and according to the news report he was |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
65. So do people that act so irresponsibly get to keep their CCW? |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. I have great concern |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Well I have not seen any reports at all of people sitting in their cars in a hospital ER. n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Oops you stepped into that one. LICENSURE, registration & Testing are |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. First I have no idea what this means |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. You want to make an auto comparison then you'd have to |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The second amendment protects an individual right |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. So you think the 2nd Amendment allows you to carry your weapon anywhere you like? n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. feel free to present a quote of me EVER saying that |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
100. No one here has posted that they believe that. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Well, if you mean............. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. Sorry, but your wrong. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
99. We see the automobile comparison all the time down here. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
103. Only to operate the vehicle on public roads, not to own. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. More likely to be hit by lightning. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. thus the use of lightening rods... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Guns don't "just go off". The trigger got pulled. N/T |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well if you *have to* get shot, I suppose being in the ER at the time |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. There are some odd pieces to this story, and the reporting, too. n/t |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Well, it's New Mexico. Things are different here |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
106. Pressing need? |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. My dad says it was when I started noticing boys that he... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Well in Virginia.. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. And everybody laughed at Arlen Spector's magic bullet theory |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. You beat me to it! |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. I personally am more afraid of getting shot by a gun owner who legally carries a gun |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Why? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Because of accidents like in the story |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Maybe not your state but in a state like mine PA or neighboring |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Well I do worry about it. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
76. There's far less chance of you being shot accidentally by a person legally carrying concealed... |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. I fail to see how gangs deliberately shooting people |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Insight and intellegence, I love that. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Mom's a total bitch so I'll save you the misery |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. Yeah, that hit me half-way home from work... |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. would a holster have prevented this accident? |
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Straw Man (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
61. A revolver, I believe |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. snub nosed 357 per the article |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. That's insane |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
77. I carry a snub nosed .38 caliber revolver in a pocket holster ... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
78. Yes IMHO if the gun is one your person it should be in a holster |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
101. He was just a dumbass. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I think that's stupid |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Most people get shot by people they know. |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Most people get shot by people they know. |
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northoftheborder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. I agree with you, mostly. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. You chose not to own a firearm for your reasons ... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. "Most people get shot by people they know." |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Actually, no.. most people don't get shot by someone they know. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
102. Did it ever occur to you that gangbangers know each other? |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. You live in a "may issue" state |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. I am more afraid of being trampled in the rapture... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. I'll have to repeat this true story again |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 06:36 AM Response to Reply #70 |
97. I stand by my fear priority. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. Negligent discharge, NOT "gun goes off" |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. "....Dumbass gun owner of the day...." |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Here's Repuke dumbass gun owner of the day |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. I daily carry a sidearm... |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. So are you saying that you should get a pass if you don't shoot anyone? n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. No , he said he leaves and secures his weapon NT |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. So he did not commit a crime by taking a gun where he was not allowed to take the gun? n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I can't speak for where HE lives |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Did she commit a crime. Ignorance is no excuse is it? n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Isn't justice supposed to be tempered W/ mercy? NT |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So you are giving up and asking for mercy? So is wifey a law breaker? n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Yup, she is and had she been caught she would have paid |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. So she got a pass, right? Should she have turned herself in to the law? n/t |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You clearly don't understand Virginia law.. |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Silly "gun free zones" and the "silly un-armed people" who confront you about the gun, eh? n/t |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. You simply cannot comprehend.. |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. So then why would you use the term 'Beat Feat' to imply that you had done something wrong when you |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. As I said, I carry EVERYDAY.. |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Seems that if you carry everyday then you could make it a practice not to go into a gun free zone.nt |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Gotta ask? |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I cannot see where this is relevant when a legal person is not even capable enough to operate his |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. You brought it up. |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Thanks for reiterating that people who carry concealed are not able to obey the laws that |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. You seem to not understand the law |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I never said that I would confront anyone. It was Virginia |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. What makes you think it would be any different... |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Like why is it so difficult for you to accept responsibility if you decide to carry??? n/t |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. I have accepted the responsibility.. |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Good luck then. n/t |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. I don't |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Virginia MountanMan is the originator of "silly gunfree zones" |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Yep! |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. So you are painting a picture of people willing to be dishonest when posting signs in Texas to |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You never speed do you?? |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 06:06 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Answer me this |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Have you never made a honest mistake? n/t |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
90. He is Jesus...He is PERFECT.... |
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Jumping John (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Even Jesus got pissed and threw a hissy fit at the money chngers. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
75. Basic firearm safety education in public schools could reduce the number of idiots of that kind |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
83. I was wondering how one bullet hit six people ... |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. But the facts do not make for good headlines. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I guess I could say that I've been shot three times ... |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
95. By that definition, I have been shot once, too. |
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