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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:06 PM Original message |
Howard Dean joins the "Cheap Labor Lobby" |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Tom Tancredo is popular in California? |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. News to me, and I'm a Californian. |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 03:32 AM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Opposition to Illegal Immigration |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The way that most repukes are advocating for "reform" |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. You're the one that brought up Tancredo |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 03:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Tancredo |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. That's not what you said |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
111. Wouldn't That Be Bizarre? |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. One of the things you're upset at H. Dean about is that he criticized... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Tom Tancredo says we should threaten to nuke Mecca to thwart |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Dean |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
117. Yes, you do sound like a racist and a xenophobe nt |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why are you disappointed? |
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IndianaDemocrat (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Never Run A Business, Have You?? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. As a manager, I can say that unless we verify all the documentation |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. well I do |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. And agribusiness is a huge one |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
62. Yes indeed |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That is a strange turn |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. That's a Completely Dishonest Interpretation |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Nah, I ain't buyin' that |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
64. Challenging Documents |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Good Point |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Prosecuting Employers |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
104. Indeed, didn't they trip alarms and generally muck the border patrol up |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. That's EXACTLY what we need. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Why stop there then |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think you're overreacting here |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
65. Dean & "Xenophobia" |
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idlisambar (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Dean's position is simplistic |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. You may have a point |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. What? |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
69. Dean Attacked Everyone Opposing Illegal Immigration |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Cool, I fail to see your reasoning |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Another Deliberate Distortion |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Now look who is distorting facts |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Here's the speech: |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Quite an excellent speech! |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. Speech? |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. Another Dishonest Distortion |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. How much asbestos can you get together real quick |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. Have another beer. Have two. You'll feel better. nt |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not agreeing with anything except that workers are increasingly |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. LOL Tancredo? The one who wants to bomb Mecca? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. You aren't going to find much support here |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. I hope you put on your fireproof underwear |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why do so many Dems sympathize with illegal immigrants? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Because they are human beings too? Hard working ones, at that. nt |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. They are human beings |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. They pay far more in than they get out in services. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No, but they certainly pay sales taxes and indirect taxes |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Yes, there are two sides -- right and wrong |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Hire them? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
94. Zing! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
85. Who are you to tell us how many sides there are? |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. 2 Sides: Legal & Illegal |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 07:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Did you know |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #76 |
86. Yeah, I know. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. It's a fact the rascist isolationists conveniently |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
108. Southern California is CLOSING HOSPITALS left and right because |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Because |
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johannes1984 (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. yeeeaaah them evil immigrants |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Illegals are being unfairly targeted and maligned |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. "unfairly targeted and maligned" -- what is it about law-breaking |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Yeah, we can see you have no sympathy |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thanks Eloriel |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. I like that post. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Deleted message |
QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #66 |
87. Meatpacking used to be a union job w/ good pay and bennies. |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
110. Way to Go Dolstein! |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 03:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
72. Big Businesses That Employ Illegal Aliens |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I would say that Dean is looking at this from a human rights angle |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. I think the world should aspire to borders like those in the EU. |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
99. Agreed |
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johannes1984 (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. yeah |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. Give me a break. Illegal immigration isn't a cause of cheap labor. It's a |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. bzzzzzzt, wrong answer |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. The US has ripped off foreign countries before NAFTA. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. Tancredo is popular (I guess) with nutjob, racist California Republicans. |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on DU |
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Tahkcalb (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. You voted twice for Reagan and Dean is a Scumbag??? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Welcome to DU Tahkcalb, and thanks for your further research on the OP's |
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johannes1984 (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. welcome and NIIIIIICE |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Much brainwashing to undo |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
71. Nice Distortion |
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Tahkcalb (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
93. Gander Sauce |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm kind of wondering whom you are representing. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Dean must go? |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
59. I just sent Dean a thank you note. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
37. Once an immigrant is in America, s/he is consitutionally protected. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Notice the O.P. is now gone........*********** |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Exactly! |
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Humor_In_Cuneiform (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
41. Minutemen were not welcome in Arizona |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
84. The Term Minutemen Is Misleading... |
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No Michael Savage (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
44. Oh goody |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. have you ever noticed the 'ticks'??? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
91. self-del |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. LOL please. nt |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-24-05 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. What a bunch of absolute nonsense |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
58. Excuse me? The Minutemen are low-life racists and violent ones at that. |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
114. Given to hyperbole, I see. I challenge you to LINK to any PROOF of |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
75. THEY TOOK OUR JERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
80. HERE'S THE SPEECH: |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #80 |
89. Great speech. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Certainly was. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
81. HERE'S DEAN'S STATEMENT ON TANCREDO: |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Sounds like a completely rational response |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
83. I'll take Howard Dean over racists like the Minutemen and Tancredo any day |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
90. This misrepresentation of Howard Dean's message brought to you by... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
103. One issue people make my teeth itch |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
106. 1)The OP is CORRECT 2)Links to Dean's Speech are SANITIZED Versions |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. on the flip side, the OP offers no source of the speech |
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PsycheCC (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. The OP says it was a speech to La Raza this week. From my search |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. I haven't heard or read Dean's speech but I must say... |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
116. Please Don't Peddle This Here |
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118. Locking |
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