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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:04 PM Original message |
LTTE: Moderates can lead the way (Mark Warner) |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Chickenshit bullshit. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Right, if you ignore your party's traditional base, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Wow, we actually agree! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, it's real moderate to |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. Right, look where they've taken us so far |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. ah. repeating that myth. are ya? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Explain the myth, please |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Still waiting. |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 06:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. the myth is |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Evidence? |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Cum hoc ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this). |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. still waiting. And I gave you 45 minutes. You only gave me 15 . |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. So far, this is the whole of your argument: |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. on the contrary. I've made no argument |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Yes |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I'll try one more time |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:57 AM Response to Reply #76 |
109. How about rational, or logical? |
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spaniard (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. hmm... interesting response. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
96. So you don't think Kerry Won or Gore Won. You think we LOST. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. That letter sums up the DLC bullshit perfectly. |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. Unfortunately there are no thoughtful repukes! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Centrism" is DEAD....DEAD....DEAD...a miserable failure, and a |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Great post. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Thanks |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Sad but true |
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justgamma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. Nobody throws donkey dung |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Yep |
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Crazy Guggenheim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Oh God!! The next thing's going to be electability..... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
116. Yep |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Lead the way, Where?? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. I was there IN THE ROOM for that speech and Warner is boring! |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. How many threads are you gonna copy and paste this in? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The Warner promoters are out tonight and I believe in offering a |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. It's good that any candidate thinking of running in '08 gets a good earful |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. But Kerry and Edwards really aren't very center... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. It's too early. We need to see how Mid-terms come out and what happens |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Agree ..it's too early..but it's always fun to speculate... |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. That's what I think is going on now |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Well said.. very true about Vilsack.. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Look at who Warner has helping him |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. Now compare that to Hillary's all star line up.... |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. So start your own thread |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I'm not spamming... I'm on target and debating... |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Hey it could be worse.... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Well I don't... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Were those the three threads trying to sell a Repub-Lite |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
54. LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Somebody is wearing out.. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Interesting Report - let's How Many DLC'rs are running in 08? |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. As I've said before in other posts |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. FYI: I'm not totally opposed to DLC just so you know... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Biden spoke at the Florida Jefferson Jackson day dinner in July. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
83. Only if you heard him live |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. I think Warner |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. What I want to know from Warner is: |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. Bring on Donna Brazile .....she can manage his Campaign...She's a real |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. You think Donna Brazille is good manager? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
59. I was being sarcastic in the post.. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
39. He does have |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-01-06 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. I think we need to see how all this plays out in November |
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Don1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
28. Flamebait. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. yea |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Yes |
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Don1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. I was thinking the first part: |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. a super-majority of Americans are liberal in all but name |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
41. It will be a moderate the captures disaffected Republicans. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 02:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Not necessarily... |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
84. Wow I actually agreed with a post of yours |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. The far lefties are about three to five percent of the electorate... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
115. So why do the DLC types |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
49. It appears that there will be a huge number of people who |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
51. Warner did not write this article folks. "Donkey dung" is not his phrase. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
52. Mark Warner did not write this wyldwolf. "Floyd Winters" did. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. thank you MzMolly, I am aware of that |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Well it seemed that many respondents felt Warner wrote it. |
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dilligas (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
53. Warner is right... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Whether they're there or not on election day, their numbers are too |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Yeah, keep taking us for granted, while pandering to the right.... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
110. Whatever! Your nasty little diatribe has nothing to do with |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
57. I like Warner. This is one person's LTTE, doesn't mean that much to me. |
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Cults4Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
58. Moderates these days would have been solid right 5 years ago! |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
111. You have no idea what you're talking about. "Our" ideals are much |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
62. Absolutely right... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. By definition, there are no far left Democrats. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
88. exactly!!!!!!!! -- I wonder if this is far left?: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Nope - though it may have seemed that way to, say, Dixiecrats. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
65. Again-- I'm skeptical about the label here. Warner seems more liberal |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I say this as a fan of Warner's... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Howard Dean was cut from the same moderate cloth. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. You're comparing Warner to Dean?? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Did I say they were? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Stop acting like we did not know who Dean was. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:11 AM Response to Reply #81 |
94. I said "some." |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. I love it when people talk down to me like that. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. I haven't "bullied" anyone. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
95. Deleted message |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
98. --- |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
99. Carry a grudge between threads much? |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #99 |
105. That won't be necessary |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Yes |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
103. Using the word "cult" is very insulting. It is from the primaries. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 04:49 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. you mean like this? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:19 AM Response to Reply #71 |
112. That's right AK. The label mudslingers seem to forget that. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #65 |
85. He's at least a progressive |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-02-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yay! Let's lose again! |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. You don't know that do you? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I've heard the same thing for 12 years |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
90. His views on Medicare and Medicaid sort of concern me. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. As time goes on |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 02:42 AM Response to Reply #90 |
106. well yes, that is something to be concerned about |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
92. a super-majority of Americans are liberal in all but name |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Or another way of putting it is |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 04:36 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Unfortunately, Mr. Carpenter, That Is Not Sufficient |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. I absolutely agree |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-03-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Well, take away their Medicare and Social Security,... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 07:20 AM Response to Reply #97 |
113. And this (what you said) is the reality of what we have to deal with.. |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-04-06 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
107. Moderates and liberals can lead the way together! |
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