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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:49 AM Original message |
Clinton: Candidates won't be damaged by initially backing the war in Iraq |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Denial--Left Bank |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. She'll spend the entire gen election campaign explaining her "vote for the war" just like Kerry did |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It will take a hell of a lot longer than that to explain a vote for an |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I Agree |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. In 2004, Kerry was one of the very few criticizing the war and calling for withdrawal. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. if, as you say, it wasn't that big of an issue in 2004 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's not the IWR, it's ending the war. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I'm sure it will affect the votes of some |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yes, genuine disagreements, but when it was clear that a timetable was gaining momentum |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
60. The problem was not that she was against the specific amendment |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I have a hard time with sentences that have both |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
57. It is rather ironic, that the Clintons have taken Kerry's 2004 reason |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. It is rather ironic, that the Clintons have taken Kerry's 2004 reason |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. 2004 seems like eons ago |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. That's nonsense. He was able to win the primary 18 months after the vote. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. and the discussion was about NOW |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. that's not true, they hung the IWR vote around his neck and they'll do the same to Hillary |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Kerry's election was STOLEN - he likely won by 5%. Blame McAuliffe for not securing |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I thought she had already took care of it. She said (more or less) that if you hold my vote about |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. My memory must be faulty. When did Kerry spend the whole GE explaining his 2002 vote? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. She's swaying with the tide; whatever is the straightest course with |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. She is trying to squirm away w/o acknowledging anything. so typical. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. yeah, you keep telling yourself that hil |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. She is Wrong |
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Frogger (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. She is wrong. |
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scarface2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. forget it...you suck hillary |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Apologies mean nothing |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Both are running from their records, |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I won't vote for either of them in the primary |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. I also won't vote for either in the primary, |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. You hit the nail squarely on the head |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Judging From DU, She's Probably Correct |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Because it matters |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Then you should blame the majority of the American people... |
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primative1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Avoiding the Edwards Topic ... |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
68. You are right to a point |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. This will hurt |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. the time has passed.... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. only 9% say the IWR will make them less likely to support her |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
23. A Handy Chart of Hillary's and Edwards' votes on Iraq |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Fantastic Chart, Thanks |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I'll click it onto my Journal |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. I just bookmarked it, |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. bookmarked - check |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Edwards is the only top tier candidate that doesn't support leaving a residual force in Iraq. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Have You Heard of a Guy Named 'Obama'? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Obama represented a very Democratic district as a state senator at the time. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
61. The facts say to me that at the very worst |
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Rock_Garden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
26. If you take Hillary's original vote out of context.... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Most Dems Voted AGAINST The IWR |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Where are they now ? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
62. None of the people who voted for it were voted out |
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Rock_Garden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Certainly not. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Most? Man the farther away that thing gets, the fuzzier people memory |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Why bother to even have a Congress then? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. War in Afghanistan was serving quite well to meet the "calmoring for revenge" |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. Are you flippin' kidding me??? |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
38. Dispatches from the land of wishful thinking |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hate to say it Hillary...but you are wrong |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. SHe is correct... |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. Hilary is correct--Most people now know she(for example) |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
45. She is correct...and in fact her position on Iraq increases her support among Dems... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well, that's a bunch of Bull. Nice try though, Hillary. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. yes, the 9% have spoken |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. the strident tone is interesting |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-13-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. the 9% are known for that |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
59. this doesn't show good judgment IMHO |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. In the general it is unlikely to be a large issue. In the primary, a different story (nt) |
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