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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:49 AM Original message |
Look at this map.....McCain has won and turned all our blue states RED |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah. I can't believe people don't know the difference between |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama wins in places that will be won by McCain. McCain will |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. If Obama chooses someone who appeals to Latinos and |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Who? It won't matter. |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. McCain is NOT taking California. He won't even campaign there. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. California? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Yes, states like Washington, Connecticut, Maine, Illinois. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Dark blue CA will turn red? Sounds incredible! |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. How did Schwartznegger win the |
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CPschem (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. Pure speculation. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. okay .bookmarking this thread so that come Nov ..if you're still here on DU ...I"ll remember you |
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CPschem (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. I've been here since '03. |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. Very interesting map |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. I know you don't believe that those maps are static |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. With Huckabee on his ticket |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I thought Huckabee said he wasn't interested in VP? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Southern blacks vote Democratic anyway. A black man on the ticket |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You're forgetting Virginia |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. It is the most racist. And that is what we are talking about. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You're forgetting Virginia |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. OTOH, Hillary on the ticket would turn out the same bigots against |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. No, he has shown he can get the white Democratic vote - not |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. Obama will win all 50 states!!! |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. It is good to be a positive thinker, |
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TheUniverse (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. That map is ultra manipulative. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. exactly. That third map is really misleading. |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. The "fact" is that twice as many Dems are turning out to vote as Reps. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. Neither Clinton nor Obama will turn red states blue? Why are we even holding primaries then? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. oy |
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insanity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Consider that democratic turnout eclipses republican turnout |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. He only needs to turn a couple of states blue... |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
13. Defeatism! |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. NO not "defeatism"....it's called REALITY darl'in! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:19 AM Original message |
True - in Nov it's FL, MI, MO,PA, and Ohio that will decide the election |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
46. Someone posted a graph yesterday |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
16. That's the Kerry map from 2004. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. how about a Nixon - Kenedy map....the map does NOT change ever...get it? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. It doesn't? |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Thank you .....except with a Clinton! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Somehow, I don't think the cause of '92 and '96 was the last name of the Dem nominee. |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. That Clinton isn't running, but there is still hope! |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. There you go again... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Actually she's lieing again. |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. I suspect Georgia went blue in 1992 because of Zell |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. I don't know where that map came from but it's wrong! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. The map you posted is the 2004 map |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. Kick even though this wasn't the Nixon - Kennedy Map n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. You do realize that dem turnout has been far, far, far greater |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Massive Maine Caucus turnout is only 10% of 2004 vote |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. huh? I take it you mean 10% of the general election vote |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
39. and you do know that most of that turn out is due to the Bush* factor |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. no. i don't know that. and neither do you. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
41. Massive Maine Caucus turnout is only 10% of 2004 Dem only vote |
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
19. LOL! Thank you |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
26. Ah, but you underestimate his secret weapon: |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
27. McCain will seek to reinstate the draft . He'll need an army to occupy Iran. |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
43. The blue/red county map is also an urban/rural map |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. .... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. Here is the thing you are not considering |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. Another "Neither will turn the Red - Blue and both will keep the Blue". |
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