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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:51 PM Original message |
If you favor democracy over winning, this race is over |
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wanpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. I favor democracy, and playing by the rules, without moving the goalpost and using division to win |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well said. |
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Growler (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Excellent Post! |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. I favor playing by the rules, and telling the truth. Obama is my nominee, too. |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Of course, if you live in Florida, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. ...then you have a very big reason to be very angry with your state party. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Well said! |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. Paging madfloridian... Paging madfloridian... {nt} |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. I favor respecting the voter-controlled aspect of the nomination process. I favor fairness. |
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Ytzak (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. I favor democracy over winning... |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Clinton can favor winning in 8 years and save our country. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Agreed. She has every right to run again and may do well. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
9. I favor democracy |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Completely agreed. I oppose antidemocratic efforts such as those the FL/MI state parties undertook. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. democracy means setting down ground rules and sticking to them... |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. "We are competing everywhere through February 5th" - Hillary Clinton |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. In a Democracy, all the votes count. In a tyranny, It's the people counting the votes that matter |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So those states aren't voting now? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Like I said, it 's about the people counting the votes, not the people casting the votes. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Which makes no sense in this context at all |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Oh look, in the absence of a real argument, you've resorted to ad hominem |
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Youphemism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Wouldn't tyranny also be... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Not if the second name was taken of willingly by the person who was supposed to be on the ballot. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. by disregarding the law as determined by the courts... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. "you are not a true american" |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. by disregarding the law as determined by the courts... |
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Youphemism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Of course... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. There is no argument that you or anybody else can make to me to justify disenfranchising two states |
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Kixel (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Obama didn't do it. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. He blocked the revote. |
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Youphemism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Easy, there... |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. Amen |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. I favor giving the nomination to the candidate who has won the most votes. n/t |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Guess what fucko, that's not how it works. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Oh look, more unwarranted ad hominem from you. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. call me crazy... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. uh yeah, whatever. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. no response? |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. That your phrase of the day? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I thought the Obamites were in favor of democracy? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Only so far as it favors their cause. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. You're not Democrats, you should be celebrating our nominee tonight. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-21-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
68. Sore winner n/t |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. How 'bout we give the nomination to the candidate who won it? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. President Obama! |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. President McCain |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Adios to you and your kind!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Deleted sub-thread |
cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. Actually, to favor democracy, you favor all of the votes of all |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Luckily, we don't live in a democracy. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I love this race....when is the next primary jgraz? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You mean one that matters?? NH Republican primary in 2012. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. No jgraz, I'm not looking for the date of the NH primary. I'm |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. The next Democratic primary that matters will be in 2016. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. No jgraz, isn't the next date June 3rd? Were you not able to |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
39. Actually, Hillary may win the popular vote ... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Hillary may also win the leprechaun vote. Which makes about as much sense. |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Um, I think democracy is about direct representation, non? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Don't get snotty with me when you're pulling facts out of your ass |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Nice dancing .... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. We've heard this for months. It was shit then and it's shit now |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. There you go, when logic fails ... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You can't use logic when talking to insane people |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Shame on you avenger64 for having the nerve to defend |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. thx for the support, man. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
41. I favor winning. I don't want the Democrats to have to go into November with Mr. Unelectable |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
57. The Primary Is Not Solely About Democracy, And It's A Bit Narrow Minded And Naive To Think So. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-20-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. He IS the presumptive nominee, but I think the race is officially over on the last primary |
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