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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:49 AM Original message |
The America we knew is gone |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. I hope yall took good pictures |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. Corporate power won. The lower 98 percent lost. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I think The "Big" Lebowski summed up what happened, in not so nice of words... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Yeah, but the Dude abides... |
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roberto IS beto (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
126. I am the Walrus |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Hoping the Walrus wasn't a Reaganite |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Yup its their world and we're just living in it |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
137. we can live in it as long as we keep paying the rent.. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #137 |
152. This is true - as long as we can pay the rent, fine |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
72. Good insight. |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
188. We'll never stick together. |
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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
130. When I was a kid I interviewed my dad about his perception of the vietnam war for a class project. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. My opinion: America is a leader of the world, and a great country. |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. A Leader in what ways? Education, life expectantcy, quality of life, human rights??? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Ok let's be clear it wasn't for hundreds of years |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
80. +1 (nt) |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
158. Militarism.. nt |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
166. + |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. USA ....USA ....USA |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
46. When that argument comes up, I like to point out: you're quite correct: freedom ISN'T free. |
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canadianbeaver (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. Yes that is correct ...it costs lots of lives of those who serve.... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. ... |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. There is still a lot of "great" here but things are trending in an ominous |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Yep, that is why we check the undies of 91 year old |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
190. Umm, I think she was actually 95. nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. LOL......... American exceptionalism rears its ugly head |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. you, sir |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. Look at international statistics & read international newspapers. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:53 PM Original message |
Read also the Declaration of Independence... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. Ha! Spoken like a beauty pageant contestant. (nt) |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #78 |
196. Robcon also devoutly believes in whirled peas. |
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RoryK (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. America has been a leader. No doubt. |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
101. Depends on what the meaning of "freedom" is |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
109. Wow |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
112. There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free..... |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
121. wow, can I get some of what you are smoking? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #121 |
140. he took the blue pill... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
127. Who is this "her" you speak of? |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
138. you must have a "freedom account" the rest of us don't. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
149. A leader in what? Percentage of people in prison? |
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Mumblefratz (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
151. Not anymore ... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
159. what hopeless, sad garbage |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
168. Evidently, you haven't seen actual reports of US standing in the world? |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
180. Interesting avatar for a post like that. |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 05:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
182. I disagree, I'm a foreigner and I'll tell you why I disgaree |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
192. I just don't see it. Things here are pretty grim. n/t |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
201. We lead in imprisoning people |
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lector (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. IMHO |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. remember the words "we the people"? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. I agree with you completely about how our rights have been infringed and Presidential power run amok |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. There is something we can do |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Nash has written several books, nadin. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. The unknown american revolution: |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Thanks, |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm with you |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. a great middle class is what made America what it was |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. It was that backbone that held this country together. Now it's been broken and the |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. it won't be fixed |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. I completely agree with you. In the big picture there is really no motivation and/or |
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astral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
163. +1 nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Reaching the tipping pont should scare people |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I've worked in a number of major corporations now gone. I got out of |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Key words you wrote |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Post war middle class was a blip on the radar.. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. This certainly makes a lot of sense IMO and is the way I remember it. Thanks for |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. This should have its own thread - excellent post. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. It did, a while back |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
84. Much truth to this, but also a bit too simplistic |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. as soon as boomers started hitting the workforce, the wheels started grinding |
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BrendaBrick (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
114. I can attest to that! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #114 |
143. I loved "Mad"... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #143 |
150. I liked them both |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #150 |
160. Cracked was okay.... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #114 |
153. In Denver in the late 70's we actually had "water-cops" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
96. hey bravo. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
142. Well written , thanks.. "Freedom's just another word for nothing |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. When was that? In what decade was "America what it was" |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
107. a unionized working class is what made America what it was. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #107 |
170. We only ever reached 39% as the highest unionization in US --- down to something like 7% now!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
169. After the Berlin Wall fell, they no longer needed to keep the middle class going ... !! |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. My opinion: You're spot on. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. Only a handful of elected representatives have the |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Happy Hump Day!! |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's not gone, far from it. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. Perhaps the "America we knew" never existed. The "good ol' days" weren't good for many folks either. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
90. One word: unemployment. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
171. True ... New Deal was the greatest stimulus program ever .. .but right wing prevented Health Care .. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. Total agreement. |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's been over for years |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. +1000 |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. When did it end? Or put another way, when was it at its best? |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm afraid I can't pinpoint the exact moment when it ended |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Some of those bad things, and others, have been occurring for a long time |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Well, I've lived through half the 70's, |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. are you African American? A woman? Gay? |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Actually yes, I do think it's better for gays and African Americans today |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. +1 |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
146. From my perspective... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
136. Things are worse now for blacks than they were in the mid 70s. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. So true. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. The America we were taught about in school ended |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. the America that existed before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Hardly. I was speaking to the macro issue |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. A whole lot of people will people will tell you that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I am not disagreeing with you in the slightest |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
177. See post 136, above. nt |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
199. couldn't agree more |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
129. wait a second! Japan was ruled by warmongering idiots! oh wait...nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
31. Some things are worse. And some things are better. |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. I don't want to go back to any era |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. amen to that |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. That country never existed. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. +1 |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Then turn it around, onenote, and give us your opinion of when things were |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. If you were a middle class African American. Or middle class working woman |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. So let me ask you this, onenote. How do you know I'm not African American or gay? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. It's pretty obvious you aren't |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I don't |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
91. It couldn't be more obvious that you aren't. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Way to change the subject there. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
93. When I went to college in the late 70's, things were way better: |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. +1, n/t |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
164. truth ^ |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
39. what's crazier? bugshit or batshit? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. I agree .... and now work for the world change and local |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. Frank Zappa nailed it years ago. |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
118. yes but most will need the curtain pulled back to have a clue and maybe not even then if |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
123. +1 |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #57 |
191. +1. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
62. Don't know it I could add to the list |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Take a look at post #53. That's the way I remember the chronological order |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. So true |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. Well, that's what Glen Beck said yesterday but I think he's full of it. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. kick |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. We are Greece. nt |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
79. There IS a solution. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
83. IMO it's been this way for a long time, but just got much, much worse after 9/11. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
86. You left out the fact that we are imperialists |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
144. This may take some time to sink in at home, but what you say is true. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
87. I've been coming to this conclusion since Reagan. We need JOBS, dammit! |
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BrendaBrick (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
102. Looks like Cleveland is reinventing itself in the Biotech arena: |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
88. Seriously, folks, it may be time to "outsource" your life . . . as in work and live overseas. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
89. Romanticizing the past. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
95. Ah, the perspective of the straight, white male again! |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. And how does it benefit women to be out of the kitchen and also out of a job? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Unemployment was 10.8 percent at one point during the 80s |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
106. Didn't last for ten years . . . nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. What didn't last ten years? And what did? |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Unemployment. nt |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. unemployment has not been increasing for ten years |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
139. The broadest measure of underemployment and discouraged workers = 12-22 % |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #100 |
111. delete wrong place |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. yes, but if you counted the way they did then, the 2011 rate is at least 16% (I agree with John |
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pinqy (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #125 |
186. Except they didn't count it that way ever |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #97 |
119. Gee my parents went throught the Great Depression so I |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. That's a pretty outrageous misrepresentation of the OP, you know. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Let me be clear, that America which is gone? I'm glad it is gone |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #113 |
128. The US achieved the highest incarceration rates and prison populations ever in the last decade. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #128 |
141. How many of those folks could have been the Activists we needed to get Truth Out? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
99. I have to disagree about that. "The American dream? You're looking at it. It came true." (Watchmen) |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
103. My opinion is that we stop resigning ourselves to this fate and start to act within the rule of law |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
104. "Education? School the little brats at home and quit whining." |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
105. i have a hard time arguing against your opinion |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. This is especially true for the Native American nations. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
110. Yes.. |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. That's the most likely scenario, |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
120. ROFL Oh my God, the stuff that gets rec'd to death around here |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
122. With respect, what's gone is your priveleged status. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
131. After watching Obama's Press Conference today....Yes...the America we Knew is Gone...but |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. I'm curious. In the America that's gone did you expect to see an African American |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Oh Yes...I thought that was a wonderful promise...just like seeing a Woman as President |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
135. "I’m on the no fly list"... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
145. It's not gone it was stolen. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. +! |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
148. Not to mention, the planet is dying. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #148 |
156. We did it but so did the WORLD...in the name of MONEY! But, America funded so much of this... |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
154. Start a small business? Better have plenty of money. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
155. time for action, then - before it IS too late |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
157. We are going the way of the doodoo. |
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AlanCranston (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #157 |
161. sometimes I look in perspective |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #161 |
197. Aw, poor them. And then, they get a chance to govern and look what they've done. |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
162. Do you mean for white people? |
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louslobbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
165. America now seems to be a country where up is down and down is up and the inmates run the asylum. |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
167. So many here saying |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
172. Kill the empire & save the republic. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
173. Cyrano.... everything is temporary, even THIS |
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wial (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
174. I'm just hoping technology evolves to make us smarter |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
175. most of your list is direct result of left ignoring 1000 RW radio stations and the disinformation an |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. easy to get democracy back- try something different - there is NO organized response to RW radio |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
178. Almost all of nature and our ability to survive on the planet is almost gone ... !! |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
179. America is being purchased. Thats whats wrong. Our media, Citizens United, oil companies have us at |
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divvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
181. And .... the Republicans want MORE. They are just clearing their throats. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
183. Highly recommended |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
184. I agree... |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
185. Thanks for this -- I agree. However, you left the saddest facts off your list. |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
187. Just despair. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. Sounds like a good reason to reestablish justice and compassion. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
193. Told my wife the other night that the age of representative govt in the US is over. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
194. The America you knew |
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TatonkaJames (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
195. You're right, it's going, going, gone |
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joanbarnes (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 10:39 AM Original message |
Totally agree. |
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joanbarnes (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
198. Totally agree. |
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erickregger (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
200. Sadly, I think the OP is right. |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
202. It's Rightwing/Fox News America now. nt |
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