Reply #101: No, this is not a shame, and we need to move on. [View All]

I was thinking yesterday about how quiet it was on the DU, and how I was forgetting which DU posters I was 'supposed' to be mad at...

...and how nice it was to have forgotten.

The whole Bev thing caused more divisiveness and conflict on this board, and I really have no idea why the DU admins reinstated Bev's membership after they tombstoned her the first time when she made legal threats against the DU.

And then I didn't understand why the DU admins allowed her to remain on the board after she made legal threats a few weeks ago - especially after creating an all-out fundraising campaign on the DU while they themselves were trying to raise money.

I'm really quite tired of folks with either:
a) no direct experience with Bev Harris or
b) Bev's suckups
making excuses for her or speaking about legalese they have no understanding of.

"She's under stress."
"She didn't say X exactly..."
"There's a band of freepers on the DU trying to take her down!"
"Olbermann just doesn't get it - she wasn't trying to threaten him"
etc. etc. etc.

I warned weeks ago you would be let down.

Yes, Bev is a nice lady. This is why she's been able to get so far. She's a delight to speak to. And I'm saying that in all seriousness.

But she is NOT the issue, and all of this undue attention to her political "demise" is a sad distraction from all the people who have been actively working on this issue - Bev is not the only one.

Look at all Eloriel has done. Look at what Ida Briggs did - getting the NH recount happening - which in turn has helped get other recounts happening. Look at all David Dill and VerifiedVoting.org have done. Look at what's going on in Ohio. Those are just a few, the rest know who you are.

The reality is Bev flamed out by her own actions and it's time to move on.

- Olbermann was clearly promoting Bev early on, and continued to promote her up until she threatened his staff with legal action.
- The DU Admins should have cut her off long ago, as soon as she threatened legal action on them. I've met Skinner and EarlG - they're both great folks and their good nature has been horrifically abused in this situation.
- She threatened legal action on DUers here - the same ones that have been donating to her - for using terms she has no trademark or legal claim to (which takes all of 2 minutes to look up online to see she has no rights to these terms, and 30 DUers to defend endlessly these dubious claims)
- The Admins at Bartcop gave her the heave-ho for similar behavior LAST YEAR (was she stressed then, too?)
- She dug her own grave storming LePore's retirement meeting. Birdies in Democratic Congressional offices tell me they're embarrassed about the whole event - LePore was already on her way out, and they thought there was clearly no need for this behavior. This 'legal service' was anything but; one party cannot serve another party legally. She's toast in DC as well as in the MSM AND in the bigger blogs and forums.
- She has a similar pattern of aggressive behavior towards others here, including legal threats to people who have previously helped her while she:

a) collects $60,000 salary from all of your donations
b) may collect up to $780,000 from the Qui Tam lawsuit in California
c) may collect royalties from the Votergate movie she is starring in
d) your donations are funding her expenses for all of this travel and events (whether legit or not)
e) you're probably even paying for her cel phone bill for her to legally threaten folks like Keith Olbermann.

And so we sit here, and bicker, and infight, and ignore the truths that sit right here in front of us. How pathetic are we?

I'm sick of the denial and parsing of words, i.e., "Bev didn't actually threaten legal action on KO; she just said she was going to talk to her lawyer."

Come on. This is bullshit.

The issue is NOT Bev Harris.
The issue is about voter fraud and corruption.
There are a lot of people working on this, and we need to keep our eye on the ball and keep on the cause. Lend your support to these folks.
The issue is not going to lose momentum or validity because Bev Harris is not the frontperson.

We need to move on.