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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:58 PM
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77. "Other" women suffer sexist advances???
:wtf:

Earth to Crusoe: WOMEN suffer discrimination and sexism, in the workplace and just about everywhere else. So do African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, etc.

That's a big DUH!!

What does that have to do with Hillary?

She has suffered that discrimination and overcome it more than most. But she is the first woman with a serious chance of being President. Not the 44th. That ought to tell you something.

What does that have to do with Barack?

He has suffered that discrimination and overcome it more than most. But he is the first person of color with a serious chance of being President. Not the 44th. That ought to tell you something.

It is also unfortunately worth pointing out (though this is a criticism of our society, NOT a criticism of Hillary in any way) that the first serious female Presidential candidate probably would not be where she is today if she had not been made a player on the political stage by virtue of her marriage to a former governor and President. That's not to say she doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. It is to say that I often wonder if Barack would be this year's ONLY potentially "historic" candidate if Hillary had not married Bill. That should give all of us pause regarding the magnitude of sexism vs. racism in our society.

As far as Hillary being a "victim," I think those are Reagan-era code words that play on the notion that groups who have suffered and still suffer discrimination have over-compensated and now have more advantages than white men. That we can put members of these groups down because they want "special treatment" or "advantages." That affirmative action or other EO laws are "reverse discrimination." I call BULLSHIT on that entire way of framing things. That's the Clarence Thomas view of the world. Not mine. To acknowledge past and present discrimination and prejudice is not to call those who have suffered those wrongs "victims." It is to acknowledge REALITY.
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