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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:10 AM
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20. I think that's looking at it from a pointless...
... direction. Take, for example, the socialism of modern Europe. It exists because of its experience with both capitalism and fascism. You'll find comparatively few people complaining about corporations there because the governmental system is still influenced by its citizens. Most (not all) will say that their interests are equal to or greater than those of capital interests in practical ways of advantage to them. Aspects of EU organization are threatening that to some small degree right now, but citizen representation is still, and will continue to be, strong.

Now, consider the other options. Practical experience shows to what fascism inevitably devolves. Unrestrained capitalism resulted in the unequal distribution of wealth which helped create a worldwide depression in 1929. Other alternatives? Communism? Look at that. In less than twenty years, its first political manifestation resulted in a totalitarian society run by one of the most cold-blooded killers in history, Stalin. Vietnam? A victory by the people which enabled its citizens to work for Nike contractors for twenty cents an hour. Cuba? Still no press freedom and nothing democratic about its central government.

Other options. All variations on one theme or another.

Since you dismiss any capitalism as barbarism in a tutu, it's time for you to either suggest a wholly new system, and defend its merits, or defend the merits of an existing system.

Cheers.
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