Reply #191: No, that's wrong [View All]

Again, you're analyzing one from the inside, the other from the outside. Science accepts that scientists can make mistakes, but it doesn't accept that the basic premise of science may be wrong, or more appropriately to my point, incomplete. Your two tenets demonstrate that. If Nature can be understood and the laws are consistent, it does not allow for science itself to be wrong, only the particular findings of scientists.

Faith, or I take it you mean Creationism, since to me science is a faith, acknowledges that those who interpret divine revelation or intention can be wrong, too, just as those who interpret science can be wrong. That's why there are so many denominations, because so many people disagree over interpretation. They would all believe that the whole system is perfect, just as you believe about science, but that individuals get the system wrong, just as you believe about science. They have disputes over interpretation, just as scientists have disputes over interpretation. They have systems of settling these disputes, just as scientists do.

Again, back to my point. You choose, as I do, to have faith in science. But you still can't prove your faith is true without resorting to science as the proof, just as Fundies can't prove creationism is true without resorting to some divine revelation (Bible, Qur'an, whatever) as the proof. Just as you or I would tune out someone who proved the world is 6000 years old by citing the Bible, they would tune you out for citing scientific evidence. To them, the Bible trumps your evidence, and my whole point is there is absolutely no way to prove they are wrong and you are right. It's just faith.