Reply #56: Concept of WE [View All]

Ok What is a we without a THEM?

What if we stopped seeing things in terms of US/THEM?

What if we stopped being scared of strangers?
What if we saw we as more than us,saw humanity as we,
saw the earth itself as we?

It would be impossible to rationalize torture.

People speak of"empathy overload" that is one explanation of why people get horrified idf thier family meember suffers but get a milder upset when it's someone overseas.]

I think the reason we don't see the world as one big we is because we have been conditioned by our small minded top down culture to disconnect ourselves from our bigger we self ,as in the universal equality sense.

A parent that is disconnected from thier own experinces/emotions/motives can rationalize hitting thier own kid
this is howe screwed up we are,when we follow leaders.
We are like a many and one thing fighting inside itself for a supremacy of 'individuality' that is an illusion because people believe in "leaders" and "power" and this belief tuurns certain kinds of individuals into"deviants" based in the leader's definitions and the deviants are nessary for the leader to maintain control over the believers.

There must be the appearance of no other way of living avaliable that is free of the influence of the" leader" or the leaders belief control "norm" system that really serves to limits follwers perceptions of reality and options of choices(freedoms)...For people to obey a master they must agree to give up thier inner locus of control and thier own desires to associate with certain "deviants" among other things..In exchange they feel belonging they have an US..When more people see there is no threat in talking to others outside thier own US as interconnected ,interdependant individual people they could relate to...Peace will not happen until both sides of the people choose together to stop blinding themselves to the others suffering,abusing"deviants" or hating different people who are like themselves..And too often they await the leader's permission to do this.

When in reality ANY PERSON can choose disobedience to ANY belief,leader or system.And to choose means they free themselves which may be refusing to kill an enemy the'leader' declares'dangerous',refusing to be drafted,refusing to work,Questioning an immoral a religious tenet,and arguing it im public Refusing a parental dictate, This is choosing to break ranks with the US they allied with for moral reasons. It puts you in a partial THEM category.And this place of having no US and not quite being THEM is where you find your OWN freedom and true moral character and begin to lead yourself.

Leaders have no power over other people until enough masses of people believe in that leader and choose to give this individual thier power,as in thier arms legs eyes words, labor, and thoughts.Then when you have true believers, you have a real danger to fight against as an individual person should that leader use that structure of people who belive to become dangerous to it's neighbors.Than you ally with others and make a similar structure to fight THEM...Then things break up into US/THEM fights because people do not want to be abused, enslaved or made servants to leaders they don't trust or causes they don't believe..And in this situation the winner take all mentality makes sense.And it is not wrong to hurt people to survive.


BUT
Remove the concept of elitism and"leaders"and the winner take all mentality is silly if not sociopathic.Because we already HAVE it all as long as we SHARE it we will not be deprived as long as we ensure all have..

Leader types(narcissists/sociopaths people with conduct disorders ambitious winner types) don't like living this way(in a state of equality,cooperation and peace) because it renders them mere individuals,with as much power as everyone else has.They are subjected to the rules of social conduct everyone else is,they have no entitlements or special gifts or rights,( peace requires an agreement for all to respect each others's consent,and it requires the choice to have intgrity and not abuse others.)Bullies ,sociopaths and narcissists do not want to have to live by the social conduct rules everyone else lives by to ensure peace.
They set themselves up as leaders and generate true believers and create a "them" out of the universal us to make themselves look like"great men" among mortals. This is a lie that has entranced humanity for a long time,the lie of kings.