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"If this is meaningful why can't its nature be meaningfully and specifically addressed in discussion, or be meditated upon constructively?"

Because it's the direct experience of feelings that deliver meaning, that make it meaningful, not the intellectual exercises. What are you going to build by discussing what something (of this nature) may or may not be? Better descriptions for what "it" may or may not be? A new philosophy? Religion?

At this moment I feel something I do not understand nor recognize intellectually, it makes no "sense," I have no history of/with it, it's not a "common emotion" (anger, sadness, etc), but something else...deeper..

Can you tell me what I feel and what it means? Can we reach a consensus on that? No. The experience of the feeling is now only a memory to me and my own words and understanding to describe it are useless in encapsulating it. I can focus on the memory of it, maybe build an image of what it was like, but will that provide meaning to you? No amount of discussing will reproduce my experience for you, you have to watch inside yourself, for yourself, to see what's there.

The word enlightenment does have a lot of baggage, but it is used to point to something - a process, not an arrival. This process doesn't take place in the World of shared reality, language, arrivals and calculation - but deep within, on the edge of consciousness and beyond, so discussing what it may be is a waste of time.

How much time do you have left?

If you want to discuss something useful, discuss practical ways of finding out for yourself.