Reply #116: On election reform and this war, Kerry has been in the wrong [View All]

But your statement rings true otherwise. Kerry is a fine Senator who has a long history of voting exactly like DU would want him to.

Anyone who launches criticism of Kerry for the two afrementioned issues is within their rights. On the rest, criticism spurns from ignorance of Kerry's record coupled with disappointment in the election and the war.

I don't know about "hatred"....more like "tired of it all and willing to hang ANYONE out to dry as an example, as long as the example is made".

It really surprises me how little many of us try to understand the motives of our debating opponents on DU. These are our political allies...they deserve more consideration than accusations of blind hatred.

People are dying because of this war....real people. Kerry hatred stems from the fact that many people see this continuing war as continuing murder in our names. It's not Kerry hatred...it is war hatred, which is understandable.

People are suffering under a crazy Bush regime that lies to the American poeple and has ostensibly stolen our democracy and replaced it with corporate control. Those on the left who know about our stolen Democracy (or believe in it, whatever your take) think that this issue is exceedingly important, but, in the interest of *whatever*, our prominent Dem pols are not doing much about it. It is not Kerry hatred, it is election fraud hatred. Kerry is just a representation of it.

Now anyone can disagree with either of these positions, but please understand these positions do not come from some fixation on Kerry, but on fixation with the stances he takes on important issues. THAT is what we should be debating, not strawman arguments about the "Kerry-hatred" on this board. Conversely, some use fallacy arguments to launch bombs at Kerry, as well (mostly ad hominems).

The issues matter...the personalities do not. I only soeak for myself, though.