Reply #2: Ok, so tony goes [View All]

Just it must be done that labour is united. I have no real attachment to him as an individual, but like cinton, his blairism has so changed labour, as you say, that it threatens the party's ability to stay in power with the monster raving tory party howling at the gates.

If labour can change leadership and still show coherence, better indeed. Just who is that leader? mandelson? blunkett? straw? cook? prudence? My favorite would be ken livingston.. do you think he would have a chance?

I hear you on the ID card. I'd have to get one also... but woudn't it be sorta like a drivers license, that you have a week to present it on demand?

My only point is that, like clinton, the washout third way center political gambit by blair can create a voter's wish for a change... and a change is only another party... it seems to me a similar feeling to the 2000 usa election... hidden dissatisfaction with clinton democrats(and not so hidden) got us the shrub... god forbid dissatisfaction with Rt.hon.blair gets us a howard.