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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:13 AM
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Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 01:51 AM by Nicholas_J
Senate adds money to budget, angers Dean
May 9, 2002

By ROSS SNEYD The Associated Press

MONTPELIER — Senators passed a 2003 state budget Wednesday that the governor made clear he would veto if it ever reached his desk.

Just hours after an angry Gov. Howard Dean leveled a series of charges about how irresponsible he believed the Senate, controlled by his fellow Democrats, was being, senators did precisely what he warned them not to do.

They restored money to a pharmaceutical assistance program that he had slated for elimination, redirected some money to cities and towns to help pay for education, and passed the budget by a 21-8 roll-call vote.


http://timesargus.nybor.com/Legislature/Story/46513.html


is the information true or fallse or spun...
Sorry every article I post contains reference to Deans own actions, and then provides counterpoint from opthers who WORKED in Vermont in the legislature with Dean and were members of his OWN party....They are probably FAR more aware of Dean and his behaviors than you, adn far better to judge and make opinions on those decisions. They had to work with him FAR more often tha you ever did.

this opinion thus...

Even the governor’s closest allies in the Senate ignored him. Sen. Nancy Chard, D-Windham, recommended restoring $440,000 to one of the pharmaceutical assistance programs and the Senate voted 22-7 to go along with her.

“I’ve become convinced that we have a philosophical difference between the governor, the Republican House and this Senate,” said Senate President Pro Tempore Peter Shumlin, D-Windham.

“The governor and the Republican House want to balance this budget on the backs of our most vulnerable Vermonters. The Senate wants to balance this budget on the backs of the pharmaceutical companies who are charging too much for drugs.”

http://timesargus.nybor.com/Legislature/Story/46513.html

The fact that Democrats opposed this action and Republicans supprted it is a FACT, not an opinion.

Now tell me this article is not true.

If Dean was correct, and there was not enough money to supportbthe program...the program would not exist and the state would have been left with a deficit when he left office.

Does VScript still exist in Vermont. If so it is not because of Dean, he cut it, and the SENATE restored it. IF so Dean was either purposefully cutting social programs that the state COULD afford, or he is just plain stupid and coudnt do the math.


The most annoying thing about Dean supporters, is that in order to try to get people to stop looking at thing I post, they simply state that I am lying and the information is lies, or opinions or incorrect, in an atttempt to cover up for Dean.

Sorry, there are anough people who DO read the articles that I post, and find them completely factual and informative and valid that I get a good chuckel when the most you can do to support Dean's decisions and the things that I post from valid sources about Dean is to call me a liar.

Such argument and such support reveals the candidate himself.

A candidate who mustr hide his record and refute his own past and is only able to deal with those who question his record by attack rather than evidence. You still have not posted ANY article to indicate that Dean did not attempt to cut these programs or did not spend most of his time trying to cut social programs as evinced by the MANY diffeent people who have concurred about Deans attempt to do so. If one democrat he worked with, or one progressive journalist reported on Dean tenedencies in this arena, then it would be accpetable to state that that is only an opinion, But when many do then it is likely to be a truth about Dean rathe4r than an opinion like this opinion of Dean:

Although sometimes loose with the truth, Dean's attack strategy seems to have paid off. He has put his opponents on the defensive and has drawn considerable attention from political commentators and Democratic contributors. Polls show him neck and neck with Kerry in the critical New Hampshire primary and closing in on the favored Gephardt in the Iowa caucuses...

As Dean becomes a top-tier candidate, however, his casual approach to facts and abusive tactics against his opponents could get him into serious trouble -- and severely damage Vermont's reputation for political civility and intellectual honesty.

http://www.sover.net/~auc/deanbites.htm

But I guess the editors of the Burlington Free Press as Vemronters do not know enough about Dean to state what is essentially journalistic language for stating that Dean has a tenedncy to exagerate, and is NOT intellectually honest(basically he is being called a liar)

Again you who live in Vermont and did not have to do data checks on the truthfulness or accuracy of his statemtns to the press know better than another one of Vermonts newpspers.

So I am lying here as well, Eh?




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