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Hamas says "no Israel" as a political slogan, but they know it's not a reality. It gets votes. Same thing the clown in Iran does. They know Israel isn't going anywhere.
The "defensible" borders is Israeli propaganda and an excuse to grab the land. The Israelis did a good enough job defending themselves in 1967. Now they are stronger militarily and their would be opponents much weaker. The 1967 borders are defensible in any conventional warfare. If you are talking strategic warfare, well, no borders are too defensible against a hail of long range missiles. The fact is, other than possibly Iran, Israel faces NO serious conventional threat. Even Iran is more of a paper tiger than anything else. Who is going to beat the IDF in battle? Syria? Egypt? Lebanon? Jordan? Please, I can't stop laughing at that.
There is no reason a Palestinian state has to resemble a Swiss cheese except the Israeli desire to occupy large slices of the West Bank.
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