Reply #33: and you ignore the palestenains who voted... [View All]

seems to me the vast majority of the palestenians voted for hamas and fatah...neither of which respect intl law.....they may be a bunch of warring groups but the palestenian people never the less seem to identify with them.

i dont recall them voting in any large numbers for the "third party"...which is as far as I understand is not involved in the "turf wars". Either you respect their voting record or you dont....and if you dont it (and its possible to dive into the palestenian culture and explain the reasons have little to do with the "will of the people),...but that is a double sided sword and renders the palestenains as nothing more than mere puppets.

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as far as israeli policy being what the people voted for, that part i agree with...i dont agree that the policy and those that carry it out (me) can be compared to "militant" who enters a house/bus and kills all the inhabitants, or shoots a car full of children at point blank range or shoots missiles with the hope of it landing on a house/school etc as policy. I cant recall the last time during a military briefing i was told that was our goal.....nor can i recall doing it or seeing others do it.



my take is on arafat for destroying palestenain culture...if you take a look at before arafat arrived, the palestenains had functioning institutions based somewhat on "rules and regulations"...once he arrived with his cronies, he instituted the "buddy rule" and took over the finances himself, not to mention putting into place multiple and competing security forces and his buddies in places of power...in effect destroying a functioning system and replacing it with "one man rule". From that no good could come and no good came: The latest report shows kidnappings and murders are way up in not just gaza but in the westbank as well.