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I said that most travel guidebooks advised discretion (ie, secrecy, more or less) on the part of gay couples travelling in Israel outside the Tel Aviv area, which is not something you would read in relation to Holland and Sweden. And given that to date in this discussion I have performed the internet equivalent of kicking seven colours of shit out of you, I hardly see that you're in a position to demand concessions of me.

You can see Moroccan refugees in most of continental Europe. There are certainly far more Moroccans in Israel than there are in Holland, although in Tel Aviv apparently gay bashings are perpetrated mainly by younger (Jewish) Russians.

Both Amsterdam and Tel Aviv are gay friendly cities. The difference is that you can go outside Amsterdam and hold a gay pride parade virtually anywhere in Holland and meet with no resistance, whereas your Haifa residents seem to have struggled for permission to walk the breadth of a parking lot.