Reply #33: Well in that case... [View All]

It would have been useful to have the actual steel.

Thanks to the rapid disposal thereof, NIST had one core column piece from the impact zone from WTC 1. And nothing from WTC 7 (though the FEMA "BPAT" team did have a couple of columns showing unexplained corrosion and sulfidation - I don't know why these weren't passed over to NIST but that's suspicious too)

So in the absence of the steel they were stuck with a simulation ... of a conclusion already assumed in advance. And when it didn't work out, they kept adjusting the parameters until it did. Oh, wonder!

And using the scant available physical evidence, they never established that any piece of actually available steel was exposed to temperatures above 250 degrees C, or about 400 degrees below what is required to cause failures.

Maybe NIST would have found higher temperatures if they had had all the steel to examine. But they didn't since New York's Dept. of Design and Construction (DDC) got it all scrapped ASAP.

Why? During the disposal of the steel, honest scientists who do not doubt in progressive collapse, like Astaneh-Asl and Glenn Corbett (who was later on the NIST advisory committee) and the editors at Fire Engineering mag all protested - for naught.

The disposal of the evidence was destruction of evidence from a crime scene. If DDC and NYC didn't want these conspiracy theories sprouting, then they should have listened to the honest scientists, who demanded the steel be spread out on empty lots for systematic examination.

Too bad. It's too late now... If the OCT is true, tough shit, because NIST had its physical evidence destroyed two years before it was assigned to the case. The results deserve to be doubted.

Bloomberg and DDC and FEMA and the feds and all the mafia-connected firms they hired to do the scrapping created this situation by destroying or allowing the destruction of the evidence.

And I laugh, since the preponderance of all other evidence beyond the buildings says "inside job," so what's a demolition on top anyway?