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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:00 AM
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Why is it ok to talk about 2008 when it's YOUR candidate being pushed?
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Just curious.

Because it seems like a lot of people love to bitch about how there's too much discussion regarding 2008 when we haven't even gotten past the '05 elections and '06 midterms yet.

While I agree that, ultimately, 2006 should be the top priority, I can't help but think that power players in the establishment WANT us to stop talking about 2008, so they can make backroom deals and handicap the field behind the scenes, in order to make the grassroots as irrelevant as they can by the time December 2006 rolls around.

But aside from that, whenever someone at DU posts a new thread dedicated to talking up how *THEIR* candidate supposedly is the best and strongest for 2008.....and how Candidate X is the "only one" who can win.....and how Candidate Y and Candidate Z and "all of the others" completely suck as presidential material for such-and-such reasons.....

That thread will receive a chorus of yespeople shouting, "Yeah!...Go Candidate X!...Candidate X in 2008!".....just because they happen to like that person.

And then, once a thread about Candidate X turns into an extensive discussion, the bungee-posters appear, pop in, and tell everyone to shut up and focus on Election Fraud and 2006 (of course, then whenever someone actually bothers to make a thread about Election Fraud and/or 2006, hardly anyone responds to it - - or at least, not as frequently as the Election 2008 threads receive attention, and it ends up getting buried.....)

So let's just be honest about what's really going on here.....the problem is NOT that there's "too much discussion" about 2008.....the problem is that certain people (and they know who they are!) start completely new threads in order to explicitly or not-so-explicitly push their agendas.....and the DUers who agree with those agendas simply provide a chorus of enthusiastic support.....

.....until another person starts a thread subversively or not-so-subversively pushing an agenda that many of THOSE people now disagree with, and consequently, those people will proceed to tell THAT person to stop talking about whatever subject that person started a thread on, and invoke the mantra of how DUers should focus on "other issues" instead (so they can suppress discussion of that agenda that they disagree with, even though they are conveniently fine with simultaneous threads being posted that support whatever agenda THEY happen to agree with).

What's my point? People in glass houses shouldn't encourage self-censorship. And people in glass houses shouldn't tell other DUers to do what they themselves aren't willing to adhere to.
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