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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:27 PM
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Handy Guide to Why Hillary is lying about the Michigan/Florida primary vote
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In case there are any MSM pundits that are too lazy to do their own work or just people that want evidence PROVING that Hillary Clinton is opening lying when it comes to the Michigan and Florida primary votes and how she initially agreed to them not counting, this is for that purpose.

Here is the Four State Pledge:

Four State Pledge Letter 2008

Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina
August 31, 2007

WHEREAS, Over a year ago, the Democratic National Committee established a 2008 nominating calendar;

WHEREAS, this calendar honors the racial, ethnic, economic and geographic diversity of our party and our country;

WHEREAS, the DNC also honored the traditional role of retail politics early in the nominating process, to insure that money alone will not determine our presidential nominee;

WHEREAS, it is the desire of Presidential campaigns, the DNC, the states and the American people to bring finality, predictability and common sense to the nominating calendar.

THEREFORE, I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by rules and regulations of the DNC.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070831_Final_Pledge.pdf


Let's just say that Hillary Clinton figured she was going to win easily when she signed on to the Four State Pledge on September 1, 2007. She was going to be coronated, right? Well, it turns out...not so much. Just for poops and cackles, here's the initial press release:



Clinton Campaign Statement on the Four State Pledge

The following is a statement by Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle.

"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process. And we believe the DNC’s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar."

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=3134


Great! Hillary Clinton was playing by the rules of the Democratic National Committee that thinks that states can't just decide when they want to vote out of schedule. Rules...kind of neat things to follow. If you're running for President, following rules is a pretty cool thing to be known for. Right?

So things are moving along with Michigan and Florida Democratic Party "leaders" (after repeated warnings) decided to disenfranchise their own voters by breaking the DNC rules. Way to go! You screwed over your own constituents! Nicely played!

So the news continues to show Hillary Clinton's clear support for the DNC rules and the Four State Pledge:

Three of the major Democratic presidential candidates on Saturday pledged not to campaign in Florida, Michigan and other states trying to leapfrog the 2008 primary calendar, a move that solidified the importance of the opening contests of Iowa and New Hampshire.

Hours after Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina agreed to sign a loyalty pledge put forward by party officials in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York followed suit. The decision seemed to dash any hopes of Mrs. Clinton relying on a strong showing in Florida as a springboard to the nomination.

“We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process,” Patti Solis Doyle, the Clinton campaign manager, said in a statement.

The pledge sought to preserve the status of traditional early-voting states and bring order to an unwieldy series of primaries that threatened to accelerate the selection process. It was devised to keep candidates from campaigning in Florida, where the primary is set for Jan. 29, and Michigan, which is trying to move its contest to Jan. 15.

The Democratic National Committee has vowed to take away Florida’s 210 delegates — and those of any other state that moved its nominating contest before Feb. 5 — if it does not come up with an alternative plan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/us/politics/02dems.html


Just so we know what Hillary Clinton's intentions were, let's look at last August, 2007:

SEN. HILLARY CLINTON pledged in August, "I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential primary election or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina."

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=36993ac7-40a6-40d1-a96a-55253123b1a1&headline=Clinton\'s+\'is\'+moment%3A+Who+cares+what+words+mean%3F


So the DNC releases a press release in December, 2007 that Michigan and Florida did not comply with the Four State Pledge (that Hillary Clinton signed on and agreed to):

Dec. 1, 2007
Democratic leaders voted Saturday to strip Michigan of all its delegates to the national convention next year as punishment for scheduling an early presidential primary in violation of party rules.

Michigan, with 156 delegates, has scheduled a Jan. 15 primary. Democratic Party rules prohibit states other than Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina from holding nominating contests before Feb. 5.

Florida was hit with a similar penalty in August for scheduling a Jan. 29 primary.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22054151


So, just to make sure everyone knew where she stood, Hillary Clinton is on record and in an audio document where she KNOWS the votes will not count:

"It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything," Clinton said Thursday during an interview on New Hampshire Public Radio's call-in program, "The Exchange." "But I just personally did not want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever, and then after the nomination, we have to go in and repair the damage to be ready to win Michigan in 2008."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101100859_pf.html

Audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg

Full interview: http://www.nhpr.org/node/13858


So which Hillary Clinton are we to believe? Not only is Hillary Clinton trying to change the rules in the middle of the game, she is also lying about how she initially was for following the rules of the Democratic National Party.

She wants to pin the blame on everyone except herself. It appears that the only way she can "win" is to cheat and lie.

If you want to find out WHO is responsible for disenfranchising the voters in Michigan and Florida, here is the list of contacts:

Florida Democratic Party
214 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, FL 32301
850-222-3411
850-222-0916 (fax)
http://www.fladems.com /

Chair: Karen Thurman
Vice Chair: Rudolph Parker
Executive Director: Leonard Joseph

Michigan Democratic Party
http://www.michigandems.com//staff.html
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