Reply #5: We'd all like to be idealistic in the face of adversity... [View All]

but thus has seldom been the way to victory and is not now.

Maybe I'm wrong and drawing lines in the sand between the two is the way to go. But a lot of people are scared that Kerry is weak, wishy-washy, a flip-flop, and doesn't have the stomache to lead.

That's my grandfathers position. My grondfather was in the army in Europe during WWII and, believe me, he has some stories to tell about it. He's seen blood and guts and the horrors of war firsthand. And he vehemently supports Bush and Republicans, damn the torpedos.

There's no good way to explain the logic. I think it may be genetic to some degree, between the warrior class and a nester class. But a tiger don't change its stripes and a warrior don't give up his sword.

Kerry needs votes and he needs to take them from the Repugs. Logic can go out the window.