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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:27 PM
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20. Sorry ...
didn't mean to misinterpret.

But we cannot let these fucks define our leadership out from under us. Let us make no mistake in underestimating what these rotten bastards are capable of ... lying is a daily ... maybe hourly activity for the gop leadership and their unelected minions are even more vicious.

And we are on the horns of a dilemma. If we fight them the same way, we truly become indistinguishable from them except for policies. However, what is essential, is that we call them on each and every lie. The mistake we made in the 90s when we allowed them to so demonize Bill Clinton ... as they did every nominee we've had since Humphrey ... was that we allowed them free reign to lay the predicate for the discussion. Clinton ---liar or pervert? See, it starts from predicates that were far from established initially but with the connivance of the media, the predicate was established.

And that where we have to stop them.

That is why it infuriates me to read right wing CRAP on DU about Hillary, Kerry, or Clark. Hillary is an opportunist. Kerry flip-flops. Clark tried to start WWIII. What we have to do is have OUR minions NEVER grant that predicate. Never. Not even for the sake of argument. And when the predicate is based on lies, the mendacity needs to be called, immediately and bluntly. Of course, our minions are horribly uninformed and passive. We should fire the lot of them. Totally ineffectual.

It is only then that we will begin to have the debate on our terms rather than theirs.
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