Im sick of fair weather Dems. Reasoned thoughts from a Moderate. [View All]

Do not blame Kerry anymore than you blame yourself for the election defeat.

Everyone on this board was very energetic about Kerry. No speculation after the convention about Skull and Bones. No talk of him possibly throwing the election. Once WE lose though, people are spouting conspiracy theories left and right.

Was there election fraud, voter suppression and fishy acts leading up to and on Nov 2? Yes, of course.
Was it mostly perpetrated by the GOP? Probably
Did Rove, GWB and the RNC have direct involvement? Possibly
Did the illuminati, Skull and Bones, or the New World Order have anything to do with it? No.
Does the illuminati exist? no.
Is S&B anymore than a bunch college boys playing fort? no.
Did Kerry throw the election? OF COURSE NOT

I understand the rage. I understand the shock. However, to turn on the Kerry/Edwards campaign because they lost is irrational. Is it their fault that we lost 5 senate seats and I believe 5 house seats?
NO. Bush/Cheney got the vote out. Yes, maybe they were underhanded and yes maybe they were shrewd.... but thats politics.

Am I saying fraud shouldnt be exposed? No, it definitely should be - but not at the price of losing any furhter national support.


Anyone who believes that a national campaign can just be "thrown" on a whim really doesnt understand campaigns. Kerry couldnt have thrown this campaign if he wanted to.

The Democratic party has a recent history of being splintered - the GOP has been able to stick together... that should be your BIGGEST conspiracy theory relating to why WE lost.

I dont want anyone of you to leave the Dem party. However, if youre just going to bitch and complain and blame the leaders of the party of criminal acts and conspiracy. Then leave. If you can channel your anger and your passion into doing good for the party, as we all saw before Nov 2nd then by all means stay. Your extremism only hurts the image of the DNC.

Yes, I like the DLC. Yes, I am a moderate. No, I do not hate Liberals, but I wish that contemporary mainstream liberalism didnt have to be so riddled with irrational thoughts and theories.