Reply #36: One important clarification [View All]

I use the phrases "Bush won/Kerry lost" not as whether more people voted for Bush than Kerry... this really will not be proven. I am strongly confident there was fraud and other "fishy acts". I am somewhat confident that these acts in Ohio accounted for at least 62,000 votes for Bush or 124k votes NOT happening for Kerry or against Kerry... (or WHATEVER the exact nnumbers are). However, I am hesitant to conclude that the 3.2 million deficit that Kerry had was due to fraud. Therefore, while Kerry, b/c of fraud may have lost the electoral college (may or may not have), the possibility he would have had a clear and convincing win is less plausible. To compound that, the election results show every indication of being certified on Jan 6th. Thereby being an OFFICIAL loss. I hope as much as anyone that it is overturned. I hope that everything is exposed and that enough of Congress stands up and objects on Jan 6th. I hope that the law suits are successful. I hope Bush is kicked out of America. I hope for Dem domination of Congress and the WH for the next 200 years. However, I am not optimistic and I do know that its going to be a long hard fight - and its a fight we can win if we're willing to have a big umbrella.

However, those who cant agree to having a big umbrella need to get the hell out. That means we will have more anti-choice people than before, more pro-gloabalists, more anti-gay rights, etc etc etc. However, the Democratic Party has to be the party that is the legitimate voice of the American people. A people who wont put up with election fraud, suppression, intimidating, fear mongering, illegitimate and illegal wars - but still has many different view points and come from a multitude of different backgrounds.