Reply #58: You seem to be trying to have it both ways... [View All]

You point out that not all of the people who died of swine flu would necessarily have been saved by vaccination; yet you seem to assume that all serious illnesses that followed vaccination were caused by the vaccination. If one can't prove the former, then one surely can't prove the latter either.

'That does not prove any of the people involved would be alive if they were vaccinated'

I will concede that it does not prove that *all* of them would be alive if they were vaccinated (given both that no vaccine is 100% effective, and that some of the patients who died already had serious underlying conditions). But surely, unless you are assuming that the vaccine is totally ineffective, you must conced that vaccination would probably have saved *some* of them?