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> how does Saturn and libra have anything to do with the bp flood and other
Saturn is the planet that has been trying to cap the well and will also try to affect legislation so it won't happen again.
The well, as Stella put it well, is the passing of gas from the Pluto decay. A very long story, and one that is symbolic and won't go away anytime soon. As has been said, THE issue is how long we're going to allow big money to own us and Washington.
*** I'll take your word for it but the images aren't flowing to me on this one


>Saturn = stability or totally break down (bridges, chinese boards in houses, rivers, dams and everything built during the WPA is >due to crash since it has not been taken care of

Saturn has nothing to do with break down - all of your references are to Pluto, the one who finds and replaces rot or extinguishes.
Saturn does maintain and makes sure, if it's not allowed to operate effectively, the PL decay spreads.
*** I think of saturn as bones - if they weren't feed properly they are brittle and break - if taken care of it is a good structure

>Libra = balance (scales) or wishy washy like obama - libra to me is negotiation but not necessarily for the good of the whole although they like to think so
Obama is wishy-washy due to his Moon in Gemini right on the nadir, very changeable
"although they like to thing so", I'm not sure who you mean by "they", but that statement is Leonine, IMHO
*** libras

>Saturn might be interesting to talk about as it goes into Libra -
Saturn will be fabulous in Libra; remember it's a Saturn return for USA when it gets to 14 in about a year. For me too.
It's not that it's good or bad. It's Saturn, and Saturn's aim is to MAKE SURE everything works properly.
*** so you like saturn in libra - tell us more why so - what are the negative manifestations

>I think of these people as the orators,
I don't know whom you speak of
*** Libras

>they say balance but to me it is like having a centrist president who goes right to try to include everyone even though it is >hopeless and screws those on the left in doing so - the health care plan is useless to most of us because it is just plain too >expensive
Again, his wishy-washy Moon in Gemini, desire for approval (Leo) and his Tsquare to Neptoon in the ninth house of philosophical stance. Remember, he can't do it all himself; he has the imposible task of dealing with the Grand Ole Obstructionists.
*** no he can't do it himself but bush who had less support seemed to be able to twist dems arms (blackmail maybe or threats) he did not give an inch on really crappy stuff - obama goes into negotiation giving it all away before he even gets to the table

>The insurance companies are raising rates -
Pluto
*** ok

>just like utilities and gas companies (as we cut back to save money) they want same income so they raise prices - so now we have >less but pay more
The purposes of power
1. to keep it
2. to get more of it
Pluto
*** ok I can see pluto for power here just didn't think to correlate them

>Mars always feels like a hit and run - accidents or fights or some aggressive behavior from others.
Mars is unconsciously an instigator AND NEEDS TO BE SO. This does not condone violence, Mars comes by because THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN. ACTION, that is Mars. It depends upon the how the table is set and with what AS Mars arrives.
*** Mars is an instigator - right - the negative side is what I said and the positive side is what you said :)

>Uranus is suppose to be explosive but I have not had a handle or differentiation on this energy
Uranus CAN be explosive but is mainly explosive to bodies that denied change for too long and have become rigid. Uranus is the renewer.
*** Here I was thinking of the tarot card that some say is like uranus where it tears things down so they can rise up anew

>Jupiter = expansion = expanded war, obseity, and luck for Wall street, bankers, and realtors while screwing the public
I don't see that. Jupiter is free-wheeling growth that can represent excess or good healthy growth. All of these "planets" depend on how WE use the energies.
*** most books I have read Steven Forester from NC is one, talk about jupiter as expansion or luck (negative side is weight gain) - I took the leap into all the things that expanded negatively (the energy not being used in a positive way)


>What houses are these in or are we ignoring that?
Huge time-consuming question - it depends upon what chart we are referring to.
*** houses of usa chart or does it not matter


>Do we have a chart?
Of what?
*** usa

>What is obama chart?
His chart is just like you see with him. Intelligent, extremely idealistic, "home" oriented, hard-working, brilliant and somewhat fickle

>Congress chart?
I have no idea where to get that chart from.
*** I would have thought there would be one and no I don't know where I would get it either

>Republican chart?
I'm close on finding one, there are many.
*** good

>The peasants (us) chart?
A very dangerous phrase - I don't know of any.
*** ok poor choice of words - Bush said his base were the HAVES and the HAVEs more (10-20% of the population) the rest 80% is us
Not sure if there would be a chart for us - I guess it would really be when the earth and life was born into the form of the human and even that would be questionable


>The cap to me just seems to be a bandaid and will force things to flow out elsewhere since they are coming up from way inside the >earth via a pipe that was not the quality it was suppose to be
The cap will stand its test 7/30-8/5 as Saturn will have had time to work. I have no idea if it will hold or not. If it gets thru this period, that's really a good sign. But, that is no guarantee either. The problem is PL, the lack of integrity within the systems it is affecting. The "Gulf Leak" is just one symptom.