Reply #32: It's an interesting theory ~ I know the older crowd, Bush Sr., Scowcroft [View All]

et al are not nice people, but they were more subtle about their nefarious deeds. This crowd, Rove (who was fired by Bush Sr.) Abramoff, Delay et al, are more openly arrogant, and more wreckless in implementing their New World Order scenarios.

I remember reading about three years ago that Bush Sr. in a speech he gave, actually said that his son needed to be less arrogant, or words to that effect. I think it was right before the war. I doubt he was happy about invading Iraq, not because they didn't want to, but the were more realistic about it, imo.

As far as Ray McGovern and other intelligence people who have been in opposition to Bush ~ I think that after they outed Valerie Plame and her organization, they were enraged. It was the ultimate betrayal because they knew she was undercover, and may have known about her work, and her cover company.

I remember that the CIA did a damage assessment after they realized her cover was blown but we never saw the results of that. There were stories that at least one agent had died, and maybe foreign 'collaborators' also. If that's the case, then I can understand their anger. They must view all of these people as traitors.

One other clue to that possibility was the judge in the Judith Miller case. He was very reluctant to throw a reporter in jail, but after Fitzgerald showed him some documents, he said that 'this is a crime of such magnitude' he was convinced that Judith Miller needed to cooperate. That could mean that the judge was shown the damage assessment.

I do think it's odd that all of a sudden, this administration has been exposed to so many dissenters when previously no one who disagreed with them could get near them.

It's possible that Bush Sr. et al, may be furious with Bush and his administration, but he might try to save his son. He always did in the past. Bush Sr. was also in the CIA. Maybe they realize that the administration is in legal trouble and it's possible that they are doing things behind the scenes.

It's something to think about, that Bush Sr. may be facilitating getting rid of Rummy before he gets indicted for war crimes.