Reply #3: Only impeachment "gets something done." All else is impotent gesture. [View All]

The bushcheney steamroller will steamroll everything they do (short of impeachment), just as "the decider" has steamrolled everything they have done.

There is no "getting things done" under rule by signing statement." Who do they think would enforce laws they passed -- even if they passed with a veto-proof majority? Bush?!?? It would be laughable if it weren't so horrifyingly tragic.

They weren't elected to "get things done" they were elected to "STOP BUSH." Polls after the election couldn't be clearer. (http://january6th.org/reasons-for-success.pdf">like this one)

Given the impeachment of Clinton is the opposite of the impeachment of Bush and Cheney in EVERY way, drawing a parallel to Clinton tells us absolutely nothing. (list below)

I posed the following simple question in http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1159484">another thread. I have yet to have an answer. Perhaps you can.

Where do you think "backlash" capable of overcoming the overwhelming disgust with Bush could come from? What faction that is not already "galvanized" against the Democrats could be "galvanized" by impeachment?

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• Clinton was very popular nationally and internationally
  
  Bush is a national and international pariah


• Clinton's offense was a trivial, personal matter that had absolutely no relation to the integrity of our constitution and our government. (It wasn't even perjury as many claim because the court found that the lie was immaterial to the Jones case).
  
  Bush and Cheney are committing violations of law so grave they are subject to the penalty of death. Namely, war crimes under U.S. Code (Title 18 section 2441) and international law and the Anti-Terrorism Act (Title 18, Section 844 paragraph e. Bomb Threat -- "mushroom clouds in 45 min"). They have arrogated unto themselves absolute and unlimited power that violates the SOLE moral principle on which our nation is founded (i.e., the principle of consent). They are violating the constitution and destroying the integrity of the nation.


• Clinton's impeachment was forced through despite the opposition of a majority of Americans
  
  A majority of Americans want Bush impeached (60% "want the bush presidency over now" and 51% wanted impeachment to be a priority in the new congress -- a number that has undoubtedly grown, but pollsters are inexplicably refusing to poll on impeachment)


• The impeachment of Clinton supposedly "distracted" Clinton from accomplishing things that a vast majority of the nation wanted him to accomplish. (It probably had very little real effect; it only took a couple months start to finish.)
  
  The impeachment of Bush and Cheney could "distract" them from accomplishing an agenda that the vast majority of the American people want stopped.