Reply #26: It's a self-perpuating loop... [View All]

24's Executive producer Joel Surnow is an avowed Wingnut and has worked on shows for Fox News. Of course people like Doocy love the show because Surnow's point of view is the same as Doocy's, and the Same as Cheney's and the same as Bush's.

This is what Surnow said about Ollie North (who violated Federal Law in the Iran Contra Affair)

"It’s a deep, dark ugly world out there. Maybe this is what Ollie North was trying to do. It would be nice to have a secret government that can get the answers and take care of business — even kill people."

It would be "Nice"?

Obviously, he's been thinking about this for a good long while. It doesn't matter which came first, or which is greater - they FEED and re-enforce each other.

Here's Conservative Columnist Cal Thomas on the usefulness of "24".

In his January 30 syndicated column, Cal Thomas attacked “ideologically decrepit” Iraq war protesters and claimed: “Unlike Vietnam, the Islamofascists won’t leave us alone if we leave Iraq before stability is established.” Discussing the possible consequences of exiting Iraq, Thomas referenced Fox Broadcasting’s TV series 24: “Watch the TV drama ‘24′ for what could be our prophetic and imminent future with a nuclear device exploding in major cities. Having concluded we don’t have the stomach to fight them on their turf, they might understandably deduce we are even less willing to fight them on ours.”

The wingnut writers like Cal aren't the only ones taking this way too seriously.

Our troops in the field have been using "24" for Tips on how to handle combatants.

Interrogators didn’t have guidance from the military on what to do because we were told that the Geneva Conventions didn’t apply any more. So our training was obsolete, and we were encouraged to be creative. We turned to television and movies to look for ways of interrogating. I can say that I saw that with myself, also. I would adopt the posture of the television or movie interrogator, thinking that establishing that simple power arrangement, establishing absolute power over the detainee, would force him to break. ...

(We adopted mock) executions and mock electrocution, stress positions, isolation, hypothermia. Threatening to execute family members or rape detainees’ wives and things like that.

In the absense of law - This is what fills the void.


Vyan